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TrevorStanilan 06-11-2013 12:27 AM

Cheap Surround Sound Alternative
 
Hi, I have a poor mans Surround sound at home which sounds Awesome.....It's based on the "Hafler Hookup" which uses four speakers in all, see diagram at: selfbuildnewhomes home hi fi

If one uses Larger quality speakers for the rear, high end sounds and sound effects (in films) jump out of the rear speakers giving the illusion of Quadraphonic, even stereo music has more ambience when speakers are positioned as shown in this thread.

I recommend give it a try! I would welcome any comments.

Trev

TrevorStanilan 06-11-2013 11:58 AM

Sub woofers position
 
I would simply like to say that position of subwoofers should not make a difference in a room as frequencies below 120HZ are non directional!...simply meaning you cant' tell where the bass is coming from!

Trev

ImRizzo 06-11-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TrevorStanilan (Post 1319345)
I would simply like to say that position of subwoofers should not make a difference in a room as frequencies below 120HZ are non directional!...simply meaning you cant' tell where the bass is coming from!

Trev

Disagree, when a Sub is placed in a corner the bass becomes ver boomy and artifical, it may not be a directional type of speaker but, it's results are certainly varied.

birdiethree 06-30-2013 09:29 PM

surround speaker placement question
 
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Hi, I'd like to get some opinions on surround speaker placement from the pro's here. Looking at a 5.1 arrangement, planning on using in-ceiling speakers for the rears (wires already pulled in-ceiling). What do you guys think would be best for the fronts? I could keep them in the ceiling, or set something on the shelf beneath the tv? see pic...

ImRizzo 07-01-2013 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by birdiethree (Post 1322805)
Hi, I'd like to get some opinions on surround speaker placement from the pro's here. Looking at a 5.1 arrangement, planning on using in-ceiling speakers for the rears (wires already pulled in-ceiling). What do you guys think would be best for the fronts? I could keep them in the ceiling, or set something on the shelf beneath the tv? see pic...

Ideal place for frts would be wall mounted/aim able on brick walls for proper separation the center would go under TV on shelf be sure to get directional rear speakers w/ the ability to aim them. your sub would be reasonably placed at the far end of that L/S brick wall

birdiethree 07-01-2013 02:10 PM

Thanks, will definately look for the directional rear speakers. I would probably prefer to not mount on the stone - and i know my wife would not prefer it :) So while not ideal, what other option would you recommend? I take it you think the shelf would be better than ceiling for the fronts. Should I set right, center, and left speakers on the shelf? or maybe a soundbar?

jkkyler 07-09-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ImRizzo (Post 1319354)
Disagree, when a Sub is placed in a corner the bass becomes ver boomy and artifical, it may not be a directional type of speaker but, it's results are certainly varied.

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Originally Posted by TrevorStanilan
I would simply like to say that position of subwoofers should not make a difference in a room as frequencies below 120HZ are non directional!...simply meaning you cant' tell where the bass is coming from!

You are both right. Frequencies below 80hz (not 120) are non-localized and unable to be directionally discernible in open air or optimum positions but when enclosed in a room reflections and standing waves can certainly influence the sound making sub placement important - more important in some rooms than others.

BIslander 07-09-2013 11:17 PM

Sub placement is very important. While it is true that frequencies lower than 80Hz are not localizable, poorly positioned subs can produce outputs that are either boomy or thin, depending on how the low frequency waves react to the room. One reason to use bass management is that subs can be placed for optimal bass performance while full range speakers must be positioned for imaging.

jkkyler 07-10-2013 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BIslander (Post 1323951)
Sub placement is very important. While it is true that frequencies lower than 80Hz are not localizable, poorly positioned subs can produce outputs that are either boomy or thin, depending on how the low frequency waves react to the room. One reason to use bass management is that subs can be placed for optimal bass performance while full range speakers must be positioned for imaging.

exactly - 100% agree

rdscuba 07-25-2015 11:47 AM

Ok, I need some advise on speaker placement. Our family room/theater is set up, due to its size, where the main seating is along the back wall of the room. Right now i have 5.1 and the surround speakers are in the back corners of the room, facing the seating. They might be about 12" behind the listeners head and are at a about 7' above the floor. I have 2 more speakers and would like to step up to 7.1 now. With the seating along the back wall where should I put the LB and RB speakers? Should i move the SR and SL speakers forward a little? Otherwise the surround and back speakers will be on the same plane... They will, due to wall decorations, also need to be at about 7" above the floor.

Thanks much.

jkkyler 07-25-2015 11:52 AM

you really won't get much benefit if any from going to 7.1

In 5.1 the surrounds are to the sides of the listeners and in 7.1 the additional 2 speakers are behind the listener

http://www.audioholics.com/images/img2.jpg
http://www.the-home-cinema-guide.com...acement-03.jpg

rdscuba 07-25-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jkkyler (Post 1385499)
you really won't get much benefit if any from going to 7.1

In 5.1 the surrounds are to the sides of the listeners and in 7.1 the additional 2 speakers are behind the listener

Adding 2 back speakers would not do anything? I presumed even though they would be close, they would still allow for added dimension and create a 7.1 environment.

rdscuba 07-25-2015 01:34 PM

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I was wondering if something like this, but moving the SR and SL a little farther from the back wall toward the center of the room?

jkkyler 07-25-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rdscuba (Post 1385505)
I was wondering if something like this, but moving the SR and SL a little farther from the back wall toward the center of the room?

That would be the best option (FWIW mine is set-up between ideal and what you show). The surround r + L should be the wide ones and the rear/back should be the inside ones.

Good luck JK

rdscuba 07-25-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jkkyler (Post 1385506)
That would be the best option (FWIW mine is set-up between ideal and what you show). The surround r + L should be the wide ones and the rear/back should be the inside ones.

Good luck JK

Thanks, I plan to give it a try.


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