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Old 11-03-2008, 04:18 AM   #31  
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I'll use 16 then, and I'll use the longest wire first and cut them all to the same size to keep resistance/load the same all around, thanks for the tip, I would have never thought about that.
I'll get the 300ft roll just to be safe and it's inexpensive anyway. http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2


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Old 11-03-2008, 07:43 AM   #32  
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18 - 16 gauge should be plenty.


It is also important to note that wires running to the speakers should all be of the exact same length to prevent an imbalanced load, that is increasing resistance to some speakers while having a reduced resistance to others. This is an extremely important factor that many speaker wire discussions omit.
Incidentally, it is not necessary to waste money on the extra wire required to make all of your speaker connections the same length. You would have to have extremely sensitive electronic equipment mounted inside your ears (even MORE costly) to notice any difference. The electronic signal to each speaker travels 186,000 miles per second (break that down into feet, and you see what I mean). The HT-S6100 auto calibration will compensate for any differences detected, though any are highly unlikely.

Can you say..."marketing ploy?"
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Incidentally, it is not necessary to waste money on the extra wire required to make all of your speaker connections the same length. You would have to have extremely sensitive electronic equipment mounted inside your ears (even MORE costly) to notice any difference. The electronic signal to each speaker travels 186,000 miles per second (break that down into feet, and you see what I mean). The HT-S6100 auto calibration will compensate for any differences detected, though any are highly unlikely.

Can you say..."marketing ploy?"
My statement comes from audio engineering fact. Yours is based on assumption. I know which is true. The OP can decide for themselves.

BTW, 186,000 miles per second is the speed of light, not the speed of electrons traveling down an electrical wire.
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:31 PM   #34  
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I plan on keeping this system for a hell of a long time and since the wires are cheap at monoprice I'll cut them all to the same length.
Wether it makes a real noticeable difference or not doesn't matter, I just want to set it up so it's the best it can be.

What about cheap HDMI cables at monoprice, should I get them or should I spend $30 on a real brand at walmart?
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From everything i have read here an HDMI cable is an HDMI cable. Get em from monoprice. I saved myself a few $$$ and got the 18 gauge even though ill be making 35-40 foot runs. Its an apartment, and i just dont need huge wires everywhere.

Besides, i figured even 18 is a huge step up from the 22g included in the box.
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I plan on keeping this system for a hell of a long time and since the wires are cheap at monoprice I'll cut them all to the same length.
Wether it makes a real noticeable difference or not doesn't matter, I just want to set it up so it's the best it can be.

What about cheap HDMI cables at monoprice, should I get them or should I spend $30 on a real brand at walmart?
Monoprice cables are as good as any. Go for it...
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I have used the $5 hdmi cables from monoprice andi recently got the $70 ons from best buy. the quality is SLIGHTLY better, but us absolutly NOT woth $65 more dollers for... just go with monoprice. i know from experiance
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My statement comes from audio engineering fact. Yours is based on assumption. I know which is true. The OP can decide for themselves.

BTW, 186,000 miles per second is the speed of light, not the speed of electrons traveling down an electrical wire.
As I said, don't waste your money on the extra wire necessary needed to make your wires all the same length.

I used the speed of light as an example. As for electricity, I can't really tell the difference between 186,000 miles per second (the unimpeded speed in impossibly perfect conditions) and 150,000 or 125,000 miles per second, (it moves anywhere from 60 to 80 percent of the speed of light, depending on real life conditions), and neither can any other human, for that matter. And the sound coming from those electrically operated, vibrating diaphragms we call speakers is a snail's pace, relatively speaking.

Five, ten, twenty, or 100 feet differences in quality speaker wire will have no effect on the real world measurements in your home.

Do your research, as I have for many years.
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:58 AM   #39  
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My Receiver Cooling Solution. I had to mess with the pic to make the vents on the right side noticable. In real Life it all just blends together as black Equipment. This of course is like a cross flow cooling solution. Build from scrap 3/4" MDF from the garage. Painted Black.

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So much great information regarding the Onkyo HT-S6100 7.1 Channel Home Entertainment System.

My question is this, if the Onkyo HT-S5100 7.1 Channel Home Entertainment System does not give you "true" 7.1 sound, then will the HT-S6100? Why would they promote 7.1 and not give you detail by detail on to go about setting this up for it? Is it worth the extra $100 bucks or so to get the 6100? Any advice where to get a good price on it?

I have been trying to find this system and most places don't have enough reviews to make me want to go out and purchase it. I want it to support my new Samsung LN52A650 52-Inch 1080p.

Thank you all for your help and advice. I will await your comments!

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ICUDOGG,
1. Do you have a 6.1 set up?
2. I dont understand wht you mean with the caption with the walmart speaker mount. Can you clarify?
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I've been wondering if S7100 is worth the money that's over S6100......
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So much great information regarding the Onkyo HT-S6100 7.1 Channel Home Entertainment System.

My question is this, if the Onkyo HT-S5100 7.1 Channel Home Entertainment System does not give you "true" 7.1 sound, then will the HT-S6100? Why would they promote 7.1 and not give you detail by detail on to go about setting this up for it? Is it worth the extra $100 bucks or so to get the 6100? Any advice where to get a good price on it?

I have been trying to find this system and most places don't have enough reviews to make me want to go out and purchase it. I want it to support my new Samsung LN52A650 52-Inch 1080p.

Thank you all for your help and advice. I will await your comments!

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The 5100 does not capture sound out of the HDMI. THAT IS THE BIGGEST REASON TO GET THE 6100. If you get the 5100 you have to run both video and audio cables. IF you want Digital Sound you have to use an Optical cable or a digital rca. Plus the 6100 is a HD 7.1 system. You do not have to run it as a 7.1, because the system auto calibrates to however many speakers you hook up. 5.1, 6.1.

Also if you setup all 7 speakers and the source is say 5.1 only. the reciever "ProLogics" what the rear Speakers should play in order to use all 7 speakers. If you have a PS3, Xbox 360, HD DVD player, Bluray Player or HD tv Tuner/Cable box that supports HDMI. The 6100 is the system for you.

Also the 6100 is 1080P compatable. And it has a Crap load of inputs.

The extra $100 for HDMI capabilities and TrueHD playback...And the nicer Speakers, and the extra HDMI input....Yes Well worth the Upgrade.

"I've been wondering if S7100 is worth the money that's over S6100...... "
As for the 7100...the only diference I could see is that the 7100 comes with speaker Stands.....To me it was not worth the extra $100.
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ICUDOGG,
1. Do you have a 6.1 set up?
2. I dont understand wht you mean with the caption with the walmart speaker mount. Can you clarify?
1. Yes, I think it fits my room the best.

2. Earlier in the thread there was a discussion about wall mounts. I purchased a set from Monoprice.com and a 5.1 set from Walmart. I had stated that I liked the walmart mounts over the monoprice mounts. the 5.1 set was like $20 at the local Wally world. I added the pics to show how I was using them and to show how they look mounted. Also to show that the monoprice mounts sag....pretty hard core with only 4lbs on them. The walmart ones are solid as a rock.
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