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Old 10-28-2008, 06:00 PM   #16  
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The reciever does get a little hot, probably not a big deal if you have a decent amount of space around it. I didn't so I put 2 computer fans on it and it stays cool as a cucumber.
how did you wire the 2 fans?
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:34 AM   #17  
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ICUDOGG. What speakers were you mounting on the monoprice mounts that were 8lbs? The rear speakers in the s6100 are only supposed to weigh like 3 lbs right? Do you have your speakers mounted on the ones from wallmart now? Can you tell me with those walmart mounts can you turn the speakers perfectly parallel to the wayy, so the rear speakers would face eachother?

the fronts are 8lbs. the surrounds are 3lbs.

I thought the monoprice ones would be better so I waited for them to come in the mail to mount the fronts. I mounted my rears with the walmart mounts in the mean time. U ended up only using 2 of the monoprice mounts to hold my front L/R speakers and another walmart mount to hold the center. It handles the weight fine, but the monoprice ones sag.

As for direction. the walmart ones can adjust up, down and left, right.

Not really sure what you are asking on the direction question so I will give you my best quess. The speaker can turn only as far as it can when it hits the wall. I do not think with theses speakers that you can run it parallel to the wall it is mounted on. I would say as a guesse 10-15 degrees off os parallel at full turn. I will try tonight to turn them and let you know.
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:43 AM   #18  
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how did you wire the 2 fans?
Good old junk pile at work. I snatched the two fans out of junk computers. I found an AC to DC converter in the pile that went to God knows what. The converter did both 5v and 12v DC once I cut the cord open I found that yellow was 5v and red was 12v and it had a bare copper ground. I bench tested 12v on it and realized they were way to loud(And Blow a lot of air!). So I ended up wiring them in parallel at 5v with the converter putting out 1.05 amps and the fans rated at 0.53 amps. They still push a good amount of air and run way quieter then my 360. Now that I know it works I may go head and spend some cash to get 2 silent fans and wire them up to 12v.

the AC converter is then plugged into the AC outlet on the SA 8300HD Cable box. when it is on, they are on....It is kind of a goofy way around turning them on, but when I play Xbox or a DVD I just leave the cable box on!
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:29 AM   #19  
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Damn! I had not idea the optical could only do 5.1, HDMI has to be v1.3, will v1.1 do 7.1?

Also I have a 360 with component and optical for now but it has the HDMI plug, so if I connect the 360 to the 6100 will I get 7.1 out of the games!
I just checked my 360 and it only supports 5.1, so if I connect it to a 7.1 will only 5.1 speakers work or will all 7.1 speakers work?

Does HDMI 1.1 vs 1.3 affect sound or just the PQ?
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That's a pretty good review of this system, ICUDOGG. I recently bought one, along with a Samsung LN52A650 52" LCD HDTV and a Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray Disc Player, all components connected using HDMI cables. My biggest likes about the system is pretty easy setup, GOOD sound for the money with very little distortion, even at high volume settings, the modular nature of the system makes upgrading at some point easy, but with the system as good as it is I can't complain or see an upgrade necessary in the future. Another thing I also like about my setup is that it functions as a stereo system as well as a home theater. With the iPod dock, I can now listen to all of my digital music on it plus listen to all of my old CDs using the BD Player.
And the Audessy sound calibration system really makes setup easy. Just plug in the microphone and follow the on-screen instructions, that's it.

The only downsides to the system are the provided speaker cables, which are flimsy and really not appropriate for a permanent installation. I replaced them with some good quality Monster 14-gauge speaker wire and it DRAMATICALLY improved the sound from the system. The speakers and subwoofer are quite big for the unit (see pic below) , but this is compensated by the great sound that they deliver. Yes the receiver does get hot during operation. I oringally wanted to put it under the TV along with the BD and the cable converter box, but the space was prohibitive and I opted for an interim solution of mounting the unit on a small table near the TV, giving it plenty of natural convetion airflow during use.


Since I got this system, I no longer go out and watch movies in theaters (tired of paying $20 or so per person to go). Just wait until it comes out on BD, then put it into my Netflix que.
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the provided speaker cables, which are flimsy and really not appropriate for a permanent installation. I replaced them with some good quality Monster 14-gauge speaker wire and it DRAMATICALLY improved the sound
Those 14 gauge wires, where did you get them and how much? how many feet did you need (small room in my case)

You say it increased the sound so I assume you were using the supplied wires before, right?

People in the reviews talk about using banana plugs, what are those? will it help any?
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y not just go to monoprice.com? they have great prices on everything you will ever need. and the quality is just as good
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y not just go to monoprice.com? they have great prices on everything you will ever need. and the quality is just as good
Thanks!, I always forget about that place, usually when I need something hard to find I go on E-bay, and I found this:

wires: http://cgi.ebay.com/Monster-Cable-16...d=p3286.c0.m14

Banana connectors: http://cgi.ebay.com/24-PCS-Nakamichi...d=p3286.c0.m14 will those fit the 6100?

I'll check monoprice later today, I have to go do stuff now.
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I just checked my 360 and it only supports 5.1, so if I connect it to a 7.1 will only 5.1 speakers work or will all 7.1 speakers work?

Does HDMI 1.1 vs 1.3 affect sound or just the PQ?
All 7.1 speakers will work

It is just a spec change.
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Monoprice stuff:

wires: http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10239

Banana plugs: http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I have two questions:
1) What's the size of the wires that comes with the 6100?
2) Will 12AWG wire be too big?
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"Those 14 gauge wires, where did you get them and how much? how many feet did you need (small room in my case)

You say it increased the sound so I assume you were using the supplied wires before, right?

People in the reviews talk about using banana plugs, what are those? will it help any?"



The 14 Gauge wire I purchased was two 100' spools for $65.00 each at Circuit City. The system is set up in a 14.5' x 14' x 9' apartment living room and I estimate I used ~135' of the wire to connect all of the speakers. I also bought a good heavy duty cable with RCA component plugs to connect the receiver with the subwoofer. When the Onkyo system arrived I initially used the included wire to test the system and verify all of the speakers and receiver were working correctly, but the first time I saw the included wiring, I realized the system could be improved dramatically with some good quality speaker cable (and it was!).

The banana plugs are optional and some people have used them to connect the speaker wire into the receiver. They are not necessary as the AV receiver has the standard threaded terminals as well. The banana plugs just make it easier to connect and disconnect the speakers from the receiver.

Again, the heavy duty wire isn't absolutely necessary but if you want the best sound out of what is a really great home theater system, be willing to put in the extra $120 or so for good wiring. I will say that this needs to be factored into the realistic total cost of the system, just as you should factor in the cost of some good HDMI cables to connect all your components together.
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wow..there's no standard speaker wire worth 120 bucks for 200ft. i know copper is insane lately, but...holy crap!

monster is a bunch of crooks.
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wow..there's no standard speaker wire worth 120 bucks for 200ft. i know copper is insane lately, but...holy crap!

monster is a bunch of crooks.
Monoprice: $17.50 for the 14 AWG 100ft roll.
Circuit city has to make their money, how else could the CEO's afford a new pool for X-mas

Look at this too, great prices on speakers stands, 3 times cheaper than Walmart: http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

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Monoprice stuff:

wires: http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10239

I have two questions:
1) What's the size of the wires that comes with the 6100?
2) Will 12AWG wire be too big?

Anyone?
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Monoprice stuff:

wires: http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10239

Banana plugs: http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I have two questions:
1) What's the size of the wires that comes with the 6100? 22 gauge
2) Will 12AWG wire be too big? Yes and it is totally unnecessary.

18 - 16 gauge should be plenty.

For example: you can use#18 wire for a 25 foot run to a nominal 8 ohm speaker, but if the run is increased to 35 feet, #16 wire must be used. 50 feet is the maximum recommended length for #16 line cord or Romex solid copper wire. This length is more than adequate for most installations.
It is also important to note that wires running to the speakers should all be of the exact same length to prevent an imbalanced load, that is increasing resistance to some speakers while having a reduced resistance to others. This is an extremely important factor that many speaker wire discussions omit.

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