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Old 07-01-2008, 10:19 AM   #16  
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ok i decided that i might actually buy the reciver only and not a complete system set that comes with speakers, so my question is , which reciever would be my best choice around 400-500$ tops, and i would prefer that it would have DOLBY TRUEHD because i dont want to change a reciever again in a year or 2. i Am going to keep my onkyo s790 speakers and might upgrade the speakers at a later time, thats not very imporant for me, something is a bit messed up with my s790 aswell so thats what triggered me to sell my s790 to begin with, a minor problem but yea. oh and i really dont care about the VIDEO CAPABILITES of the reciever because im only going to use the reciever for audio, i dont need it to convert or upconvert or any of that stuff. i wouldnt mind how many HDMI inputs it has either but atleast 1 would be fine. since im using Optical cables mainly for my system(ps3 and 360 and cable box, MY 360 doesnt have HDMI at all so ya)
This would fit your needs both now and in the future. It is a great price, has more than you currently need but will allow you to upgrade other components in the future - http://www.accessories4less.com/make...-BLACK-/1.html
The reason I have linked to accessories4less is that they are the only web authorized Onkyo refurbished equipment seller available (other than Onkyo) and have exceptional prices for great equipment that has been thoroughly tested by Onkyo prior to being sold.

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Sounds like the 606 or even the 705 would be a good fit. You can leave your 360 and Cable box connected via optical since they only do DD 5.1/DTS. But you will need to connect your PS3 to the 606 (or whatever receiver you get) via HDMI for Dolby True HD with BD movies and stuff. You can also just connect the component video of your 360 and cable box to the 606 and switch/convert everything through the single HDMI out to your TV for video.
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Old 07-02-2008, 06:25 AM   #18  
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Loves2Watch, why are you linking me to the SR605 which costs 430$ and its not even new when i can get the SR606 NEW for 430 from circuit city? also i read theSR606 is a REPLACMENT model for the 605 so.. , i really think it would be an amazing reciever, my only question is , if i do decide to run the 360 and cable box via the reciever and then output it all out via hdmi , is there a chance for a quality loss picture size? because the signal travels from the console/cable box to the reciever and then to the tv rather than directly from the device to the TV?

Thank you. im waiting to sell my s790 and then ill buy the SR606 right away, in the future ill buy some better speakers but not now, ill keep my s790's speakers for now they arent THAT bad anyway. btw would you recommand that i upgrade the speaker wire for all my speakers to about gauge 16? right now i have the front 3 speakers hooked with gauge 18 speaker wire, unlike the 24 gauge speaker wire that the other speakers have(the speaker wire that came with the speakers when i purchased the S790 system)
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Loves2Watch, why are you linking me to the SR605 which costs 430$ and its not even new when i can get the SR606 NEW for 430 from circuit city? also i read theSR606 is a REPLACMENT model for the 605
I think that's the 705, not the 605, which is a definite step up in quality.

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if i do decide to run the 360 and cable box via the reciever and then output it all out via hdmi , is there a chance for a quality loss picture size? because the signal travels from the console/cable box to the reciever and then to the tv rather than directly from the device to the TV?
Yes. With HDMI, there shouldn't be a difference in quality, especially if you merely pass the signal through the AVR with no additional processing. But, if you use component connections to the AVR and HDMI out to the TV, you may see a difference. You need to try it both ways and see for yourself. A good remote like a Harmony allows you connect your equipment in the best possible way for video and audio and then do one button switching with the remote.

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btw would you recommand that i upgrade the speaker wire for all my speakers to about gauge 16? right now i have the front 3 speakers hooked with gauge 18 speaker wire, unlike the 24 gauge speaker wire that the other speakers have(the speaker wire that came with the speakers when i purchased the S790 system)
Yes. 14 or 16 gauge wire is better.
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I think the 606 was what he meant to link, not the 605. The 606 would bea good fit. I doubt you will see any noticable difference with video PQ, the the 705 and 805 do have better video processing/upconversion. I would simply connect the up both was and see if you can tell any difference and go with that.
As far as the speaker wire goes, the 18 guage is fine for your fron and center since I would assume they are short runs of speaker wire. It is probably fine for your rears too, as long as the wire runs are not very long (over 30 ft I think). But it was much bigger issue that you upgradded from that included 24 guage wire. 18 is MUCH better.

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The link I posted is for the TX-SR705 a step up in power and features so as to kind of future proof, if you will.
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Loves2Watch, i really dont want to buy the reciever online especiallly since that one is Refrubrished, god knows how it will be. btw guys i have a question, should i replace the speaker wire for ALL the speakers or having it replaced on just the front 3 is enough? see, for the front 3 i have short cables but for the Rear 2 speakers, i use the cable that came with the system, i didnt cut it or anything because these 2 rear speakers are in the end of my living room(behind me). the surrounds also have the 24 gauge long cables , should i replace these cables with a 16 gauge speaker wire?(if i replace these cables tho then i will replace the FRONT 3 speaker's wires aswell to 16 gauge from the currently installed 18 gauges ) btw the features of the 606 are really good right? and i have a question, the SR606 is not known for specific problems right?(other than overheating i guess since thats every reciever's problem if not placed in a proper place)

and the SR606 will be the best bang for the buck for me since i want the recievre to have DOLBY TRUEHD right? also if i buy it im going to buy it form circuit city, i couldnt find any other store(id prefer not to buy online unless the price is much cheaper) that sells it for cheaper(less than 430$)

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Actually refurbished receivers are better than new ones as they have been put through much more rigorous testing too make sure that they function perfectly. And since the refurb is done by Onkyo, it couldn't be better.

But if you don't want to buy a refurb I do understand, just filling you in on the facts of why they are good and have better pricing.

Best of luck no matter which you choose...

If it were up to me, I would replace ALL of the speaker wire with the same gauge (either 18 or 16) so there is no mismatch in impedance etc.
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alrighty i will replace ALL the cables with a 16 gauge cable, thanks for the info btw i have a question tho, where would be the best actual store(not online) for me to buy the SR606 Considering price? i drive a car so distance is not a problem as long as its not too far of course, i live in queens NY, i mean circuit city is right by my house and i can buy the sr606 without even using a car. but is there some other store that sells it for cheaper than circuit city? they sell it for 439.99$. there is NO way to get circuit city to PRICE MATCH the price of the SR606 on amazon or any other store right?(such as B&H or J&R)

regarding speaker wire, the best and cheapest place to buy speaker wire is home depot right? and approximatley, how long of a cable should i buy for it to be enough for all the speakers?(thefront 3 speakers and surround speakers barely need a long speaker wire, just the rear surround speakers do

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i found this 16 GAUGE speaker wire on Home depot for 25$, heres the link:

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...ctId=100598640

the brand is philips, so thats a good deal right? im 100% sure 100ft is enough for me. is the 25$ price tag on this speaker wire good or its over priced ?

i just found this cable on MONOPRICE:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...mat=4#feedback

it will cost me about 22$ with the shipping so thats not bad either ,which cable would be better, the philips one or the monoprice one? thing is that from home depot i could pickup it up localy and have the cable right away but the monoprice ill have to wait, no big deal tho so id go either way, you guys know better , can you please tell me which cable is the better way to go, the philips one or the monoprice one?

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$25 for the Home Depot's stuff if great. I got some Phillips HDMI cables for like $12 and they worked great too. Many people don't know about the great deals on cables you can find at HD... But monoprice is always a very good option as well.

CC is the cheapest retail store I found for the 606 at $439 ($429 for the silver). And if the price drops in the next 30 days, they will match the diff. And good exchange/return policy as well.
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Alright man, thanks. good to know both cables from Home depot and monoprice are good, i wonder which one is better quality tho but whatever. i also wonder why the SILVER SR606 costs less lolz but whatever, i want to buy the black one anyway since it blends with my other devices you know and also black is just a color i would prefer since my TV is black too so ya. man i cant wait to get the SR606 but im quiete affraid ill have to wait a few more days because i have to sell my S790 to my friend first, maybe he will come pick it up tommorw or friday(just the reciever ,im keeping the S790's Onkyo speakers , ill buy better speakers later on in the year)

Btw the chance that circuit city will price match with J&R's Price or B&H's price is slim or they can do it? i would have called them or even went there since they are not so far from my building but its 12:54am here in New york so i cant right now. But im defin. going to call B & H and J&R in manhatten tommorow to find out if they have the SR606 because if they do then i will make the extra effort and buy from them because its like 50$ or cheaper there so yea.

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Usually B&M's don't price match internet and non B&M's prices. But it is worth a try.. Especially since it is only like $30..
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"B&M" , did you mean "B&H" or B&M stands for something else?
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"B&M" , did you mean "B&H" or B&M stands for something else?

No, B&M stands for Brick and Mortar stores like CC, BB, Frys and Tweeter ect.. Justa term..
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