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Old 11-07-2007, 07:08 PM   #16  
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Thanks for all the excellent advice!

Here's the thing, I feel afraid to say it, but I love my Bose. I think they have performed quite well for me BUT I can't stand getting ripped off. My Bose are getting a little old now so I want to replace them in the next 6 months or so and I want to get the best quality I can without getting ripped off like it seems Bose does. As I get more money I will definitely do much more research and check back in with you guys.

Here's another question. Bose uses the cube satellite speakers. Can you get the kind of quality sound out of cube satellites as you can out of floor standing speakers or surround sound speakers that are larger? Can a speaker the size that Bose makes really deliver the full range us audiophiles want?
Nothing wrong with being a Bose fan. If you feel that these speaks sound good to your ears then go with what makes you happy.

Regarding you last questions...can one obtain the quality sound out of Bose cubes like that of larger speakers...the answer is simply no.

Knowing that the price of Bose products is a factor, I advise you to look at PSB, Paradigm, Definitive Technology, Polk Audio, Harman Int'l products, and HSU. I really feel that most if not all of the above mentioned companies build worthy speakers at a fair cost to the consumer.

Good luck to you, buddy.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:52 PM   #17  
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I have the "cubes" , as I call them, which I received as a company award maybe 6 years ago. They have a bass/midrange unit and the two cubes. Valued at about 700.00.

Connected to my Onkyo Tx-DS797, I added the classic Bose Center speaker and a couple of rear Bose speakers which are small rectangle things. The Front Center was only $150 and it seems to handle Center stuff (Dialogue) real clean. The rear speakers seem to produce all the sounds they are supposed to produce (bullits whizing by..) They cost about 149.00 I think.It sounds great, amazes my family and friends. When I turn out the lights with my 62 inch TV, it's like being in the theater. I patched this together and it is a good Surround system from what I believe were origonally just Stereo Speakers.

I do not think this stuff was too expensive. I can play the cubes only in Stereo and blow the doors off the house.

I will add that I purchased a really big expensive Velodyne Sub that adds nice bass to the system and that thing seemed over priced! The Bose looks and sounds good and was priced fine.

I think the Bose haters are like the Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedies fans in the 80's who said The Beatles Suck.

It's silly; Only a dog could hear the difference in most of these quality systems. Dennon, Yamaha, Onkyo...it's good to live in America and be so picky.

Just an opinion.
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:17 PM   #18  
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bose sucks after i bought my polks i listened to a set of bose speakers when loves2watch compared bose to an aiwa stereo i think he was being verry generous. sound quality is judged by each person but if you think bose sounds good and are willing to spend THAT much money on them then you have more money than cents
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:39 PM   #19  
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I think Bose is expensive, but they sound incredible. I have heard many sound systems and Bose always sounds so clear with plenty of bass. I love Bose. Like I saud earlier, if I had the money I would bring home a Bose system. I love polk, onkyo, denon, and alot of other systems, but Bose has my heart.

It is like guys that grew up idolizing Corvettes. We all know a Ferarri is better than a Corvette, but people grew up loving Corvettes. As long as I can remember, Bose has been the pinnacle. Bose has been the top of the line. I grew up wishing I could own a Bose. I love Bose.
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I just purchased a V30 system (not sure if I will keep it, because I do believe there are better systems for the money). I know it costs a lot, but what Bose does for the average consumer, is make buying a whole system easier compared to looking at B&W, Martinlogan, etc... I have been looking at B&W and MarinLogan speakers for surround sound system and music and it is extremely hard to listen to all the different speakers they offer and then match it up with the appropriate receiver. Bose, you can walk in the store, hear and see all of their systems, purchase it and then take it home and have it setup in an hour. If you don't like it, just return it in 60 days. Maybe stupid logic, but better than driving myself crazy trying to compare all kinds of different speakers, etc....
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bose sucks after i bought my polks i listened to a set of bose speakers when loves2watch compared bose to an aiwa stereo i think he was being verry generous. sound quality is judged by each person but if you think bose sounds good and are willing to spend THAT much money on them then you have more money than cents
I'm not sure why you think that 150 for a center speaker is a rip off. Same goes for the Bose 161 rear surrounds that were actually 158 for the pair. When you add a quality sub to a Bose system you get amazing results. And yeah, they look good too.

You seem to have a personal bias towards Bose. Reminds me of the guys that bash Windows and insist on running Linux. Most of us have systems that could blow out an auduitorium and we run them in family rooms. It's all good.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:41 AM   #22  
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I know waht you mean about a high end system in a living room. For now I live in an apartment and only have a sub $300 Pioneer HTiB. I have yet been able to crank it up to what I want do to neighbors. In December, we are moving to country into our new house. I cannot wait to be able to crank up my surround sound during a action movie with out having to worry about neighors. Right now my sub goes from -10 to +10. It is set on -1 and has been since I first opened it up last xmas. I cannot wait to set it at +7 or +8 and just let the ss go.

Mak me wonder what you guys with the expensive systems do when yo live in the city or i an apartment.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:05 AM   #23  
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bose sucks after i bought my polks i listened to a set of bose speakers when loves2watch compared bose to an aiwa stereo i think he was being verry generous. sound quality is judged by each person but if you think bose sounds good and are willing to spend THAT much money on them then you have more money than cents
someone with your writing skills claiming that Bose shoppers aren't smart...kettle, pot, black.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:40 AM   #24  
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Here's another question. Bose uses the cube satellite speakers. Can you get the kind of quality sound out of cube satellites as you can out of floor standing speakers or surround sound speakers that are larger? Can a speaker the size that Bose makes really deliver the full range us audiophiles want?
The answer to that is no. Tiny cube speakers simply can't compete with floor standers.

If you like small speakers, I've heard good things about the Orb product line. I haven't heard them myself so I'll stop short of recommending them but at least that is a lead toward something different.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:57 PM   #25  
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I'm not sure why you think that 150 for a center speaker is a rip off. Same goes for the Bose 161 rear surrounds that were actually 158 for the pair. When you add a quality sub to a Bose system you get amazing results. And yeah, they look good too.

You seem to have a personal bias towards Bose. Reminds me of the guys that bash Windows and insist on running Linux. Most of us have systems that could blow out an auduitorium and we run them in family rooms. It's all good.

Those are the speakers I listened to and personally think they sound terrible. At that rate $150.00 for a crappy sounding center channel is a lot of money. Hopefully my writing skills are better for RedSIinPA this time.
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I know waht you mean about a high end system in a living room. For now I live in an apartment and only have a sub $300 Pioneer HTiB. I have yet been able to crank it up to what I want do to neighbors. In December, we are moving to country into our new house. I cannot wait to be able to crank up my surround sound during a action movie with out having to worry about neighors. Right now my sub goes from -10 to +10. It is set on -1 and has been since I first opened it up last xmas. I cannot wait to set it at +7 or +8 and just let the ss go.

Mak me wonder what you guys with the expensive systems do when yo live in the city or i an apartment.
and so it goes,,,that's why you love your Bose. If volume is what you are after, go for the Bose. If you be looking for quality, look the other way. me has had me share of Bose, from 301's up to 901's (from the 70's through the 90's) and finally found a set of speakers that truly reproduce sound, not just volume. Me B&W's coupled with me Onkyo receiver produce quality, not only volume. Me also owns a set of JBL reference speakers (relegated to me back room) that none of the Bose that me has owned could come close to in clarity. Bose can pump the volume, but for clarity and sound reproduction, they are a cheap speaker sold at a premium. Let me ask you this - How many other quality speaker systems do you see being sold on late nite infomercials? Answer - none. Quality speakers speak for themselves. If you buy Bose, you are paying for the late night infomercials. Spend your money wisely.

and your last line says it all - since you live in an apartment, or a space that is sound limited - purchase a set of speakers that sound great at any level. Look at specs, listen and learn. And you will see many speakers on the market that deliver pristine clarity, coupled with a decent amp or receiver that Bose simply cannot match. If me was financially crippled, and just had to go back to using Bose, me choice would be a simple set of 301's, with a receiver of me own choice. The acoustimass system is nothing but an extremely high priced home theater system in a box, without a DVD player. Paper cones went out with the 8 track.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:17 AM   #27  
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Bose deserves credit for brilliant marketing. They became famous years ago with the 901 system mentioned above. They still make the 901 and it still performs the same as it did. In the meantime, however, they have made hay with the brand. You can buy Bose audio as a optional feature in automobiles. The Bose radio is a household name. What is the headphone most commonly advertised on TV?

Personally, I think the Bose Acoustimass system, while it doesn't do anything for me personally, is a brilliant product and marketed brilliantly. There is no such thing as an invisible speaker but everyone wishes there were. The little Bose cubes come pretty close to that ideal and that is what makes them popular. If they were 5' tall floor standing towers that sounded like that, they would be a failure. Their success derives from their size. And while tiny size isn't a feature of the best sounding speaker systems, it is a big deal in terms of room decor for lots of people. Most people aren't audioholics, after all.

Since I work at a computer mostly, I listen to music on my computer more than I do on my hi fi system. My computer speakers are made by Altec. There are two little tweeters in each unit and a small subwoofer that sits on the floor. They sound a little dark and aren't competitive with the sound of the speakers in my hi fi, but they are satisfactory for their size. People buy Bose for the same reason I bought my computer speakers, I think. That's about all there is to it.
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I have the "cubes" , as I call them, which I received as a company award maybe 6 years ago. They have a bass/midrange unit and the two cubes. Valued at about 700.00.

I think the Bose haters are like the Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedies fans in the 80's who said The Beatles Suck.

It's silly; Only a dog could hear the difference in most of these quality systems. Dennon, Yamaha, Onkyo...it's good to live in America and be so picky.

Just an opinion.
WOW, it has been while since I've seen anyone post anything about the Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedys, did you follow them?

How about the really good "Punk" groups like "bad brains", "Black Flag", "Circle Jerks" or "Jason and the Nashville Scorchers", I hate to admit it after I got out of the Army after Vietnam and I entered college, the "Punk" scene was just getting started, at my university it was imported mostly by overseas students from England and I became very involved in the scene and really enjoyed the feeling of rebellion and freedom it imparted to me.

Sorry, kinda of but I just don't see that style of music or the groups mentioned very often.

By the way, we enjoyed the Beatles also (at least the group I hung around with)!
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I had the Bose acoustimass double cubes setup in the living room for my surround system. Although they sounded good, I felt I was missing full sound. I was not happy with the cubes while watching movies. With the help of this forum, I replaced the bose with a complete set from Definitive Technology. This set now gives me a richer sound, IMO. Very happy with this sound.

I would say that the Bose aren't trash. If I had to stay with the speakers, I would be satisfied, but also wanting more. They are descent sounding speakers.

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the conclusion is for the price of Bose one could have better sound quality of many speakers manufacturers. form me $3000 for a bose lifestyle system is rip off.
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