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Old 08-28-2004, 08:36 PM   #16  
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Like speakers, there are other items in most systems that resist change. Amplifiers also have a long technological life. If you can swing it you might want to think about changing from a receiver setup to separate amps and preamps. I know that you get more value from the integrated components of a reliever in the short run, but in the long term you will benefit from separates. One place that offers affordable alternatives is: http://www.outlawaudio.com//home.html
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Old 09-16-2004, 07:46 AM   #17  
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I can't recommend enough, having speaker wire run during construction. I have 2 pair of JBL in-wall speakers that I just love. The sound is awesome, and the price was somewhere around $300 per pair. But not having to look at speaker wires in my family room? Priceless!
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Old 12-14-2004, 02:09 PM   #18  
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Old 12-14-2004, 03:11 PM   #19  
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Boston Acoustics before making your speaker purchase. Boston makes a great product, I have been very pleased with my system. I run them on a Yamaha 6.1 system.

I tried out the Bose systems and felt as if I was in a tin can.

The other brands noted in this string are great speakers (B&W, etc), but for the price comparison it is hard to beat the Boston speakers.

But at the end of the day it is all based on personal preference.
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Old 12-31-2004, 02:32 PM   #20  
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I tried out the Bose systems and felt as if I was in a tin can.


Finally someone that understands what I hear when I listend to Bose systems. I have to install at least one of these systems a week. Just like everyone says it all comes down to what you hear and what you want to justify in price.

Bose=great marketing
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:07 AM   #21  
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Best for me best TO me have been JBL...

Check out their website... lots of proffessional endorsement...
Granted if someone wanted to bankroll my world tour with their equipment just to have me say that I like it, well... I would. But I like Eric Clapton, and HE SAYS he likes JBL too.

The other fact is the sheer number of theatre houses, from which this hobby grows, that use JBL in their surround systems!!!

The real endorsement for me were the pair of JBL 2600s I bought in 1991, these speakers have been moved all over the place and driven hard and have been too loud for the neighbors countless times, and still they sound great!

These don't cost too much (JBL in general-mid-line that is) and they perform terrifically!!!

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Old 01-02-2005, 05:20 PM   #22  
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This is impossible to answer. What is your idea of good sound? Do you listen to popular music or classical music? Do you go to live concerts? Do you attempt to compare what you hear at live concerts to what you hear electronically? What is your budget? All you can do is take what everyone says here as well as the opinions of print and on-line critics and then listen to the equipment. Even then you will only get an approximation of how it will sound like in your home.

I have just started looking for a possible home theatre set-up for my Panny plasma and S97. After getting an idea of what others say I have been going to more or less high end audio stores in my area. In one I heard Paradigm reference speakers with a Carver (Sunfire?) receiver and they sounded dull. The much cheaper Paradigm speakers with a much cheaper receiver sounded better. I don't know why but can only guess the room with the reference speakers was too small or something was wrong with the set-up. In another store I heard several speaker set-ups and receivers costing up to $8,000 and it was only I got to the top figure that the stuff sounded as good as my old Linn Classik receiver and Meadowlark Kestrel speakers. And none of it sounded as good as my 20 year old Martin Logan CLS's, VTL 100s, and Audio Research SP-9. (That's tube stuff.) I was playing a few old cds that I was familiar with, the major one being the Tchaikowsky violin concerto with Heifetz, originally a shaded dog LP that I have had on several successive, each better, cds. It's some 40 or 50 years old but a great recording still, and I am familiar with the sound of the violin, etc.

Oh, yes, in that second store one side of the best speaker system kept cutting out because of a bad connection in the speaker wires. When I looked up where the wires were I saw so much spaghetti that I realized why there was a bad connection and wondered how the store could demo with such amateurish wiring. And these were two of the better stores. What comes next in the next store? In effect what one hears in the stores is just an approximation of what one might hear at home.

But then I realized what may be the major problem. My Kestrels cost $1,500 when I got them, and now slightly upgraded cost $2,000. Three equal to them plus a good subwoofer plus decent back speakers would be way above my budget, which I would hope is much less than what I heard. My Classik cost about $1,600. A surround sound receiver equal in sound would have to cost much more given the greater complexity, etc.

I may give up on listening to music through my new set-up and just compromise and use the money I have saved to go to more concerts.

Good luck. And sorry to be so pessimistic.
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:45 AM   #23  
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The only people that don't like Klipsch are the ones that dont' have them. I've never talked to a Klipsch owner who wasn't extatic about the quality and sound. I've been a Klipsch owner for 10 years( both in studio/ and home ) and I would never change.
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Old 03-07-2005, 05:35 AM   #24  
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I'll second the vote for Magnepan. And a Vandersteen 2wq sub to match.

I was impressed with the level of detail in the Magnepans. They do require a lot of power though and a good, fast sub that blends well at about 80Hz. The MMGs start at $550 a pair and go up to $$$ for the MG20.1s.

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Old 03-15-2005, 03:10 AM   #25  
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Sonus Faber Cremona's would be nice. Very beautiful sound. I am also looking at the Gallo Nucleus Reference 3s and Due's ... cheaper but like the sound too... not so beautiful but very nice and a bit punchier.
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:33 PM   #26  
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As a pro sound engineer I give my vote to Genelec as the absolute best speaker I've ever heard. They are so good I can't afford them. Their consumer and pro lines are identical except the pro line goes form tiny to huge and cost up to 20K per box. A small 2way home speaker is about $2,000. per pair. All Genelec systems come with built in amplification which greatly improves performance. Check out their website and see their installations in world class recording studios. All major films use small genelec speakers mounted on the console for cross referencing, and often in wall super systems for main monitoring. JBL still rules in the theater houses.
I can tell you that acoustics make a bigger difference on your sound than any speaker or piece of audio equipment.
As anyone will tell you bias plays the biggest role in choice. I have always been a JBL man...the Harley Davidson of the speaker industry.
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Old 03-19-2005, 07:38 PM   #27  
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Try the consumer versions of the THX speakers made by Miller and Kreisel (M & K). Not advertised much but they are a staple of sound studios everywhere.
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Old 03-24-2005, 02:57 PM   #28  
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Supposedly M&K are the only speakers that THX uses when certifying non-speakers (ie-receivers, cables, etc...). Excellent choice. I recently upgraded my home theater speakers to Boston Acoustics. I was in a sound room where I could switch speakers using the same sources with only about a 2 second delay so I tried out many makes and models (Martin Logan, DefTech, BA, M&K, 1 or 2 others) and was very impressd with the M&K's. I listened to their bookshelf and what looked like large satellites; I can't recall the models. They each sounded excellent, very detailed but being that they were of smaller size, they needed a very good sub (but don't we all? haha). Excellent speakers and not too pricey, comparitively speaking.
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Old 04-30-2005, 05:16 AM   #29  
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SLedford, this is a late entry that you may not even catch but, my vote is for the B&W's. I've had them in my home theatre for several years and they still amaze me with their sonic abilities. I have Nautilus 805's with the 800HTM center for fronts, and the Matrix 805b's for the rears. My amp is a DSP A-1 which has a front effects channel that I also have two small wall mounted B&W's hooked into it. I also have another pair of one of the earlier bookshelfs speakers a Matrix 1 Series 2 that I'm holding on to. I use a Velodyne HS for the Sub. I've had B&W speakers for at least 15yrs going back to my earlier Matrix Series and they've always sounded great! I've listened to a lot of other good speakers but my investment in these has always given great returns
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. JBL still rules in the theater houses.
I can tell you that acoustics make a bigger difference on your sound than any speaker or piece of audio equipment.
As anyone will tell you bias plays the biggest role in choice. I have always been a JBL man...the Harley Davidson of the speaker industry.
Now I see why those 4 - old JBL 4311s are shaking the furniture - It's sibling rivalry with the Harley in the driveway .
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