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Old 07-20-2014, 01:42 PM   #16  
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Do you agree that when using full range speakers that the surround effects are better in a 5.1 configuration than when just using a stereo pair?
I enjoy listening to my 5.1 configuration more but I think it's just because I'm using studio monitors and they sound better than my crappy headphones, however, I'd say the headphones do just as good a job at positioning the sound for the surround effects
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:46 PM   #17  
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It's not always. If something (like music for example) is mastered in stereo then stereo is the way to go. If something has a 5.1 or 7.1 track then the discrete channels would make surround the better choice.
If I played a stereo track of audio through my system it would come out of my front left and right speakers only. You can play stereo with a 5.1 setup, but you can't play 5.1 with a stereo setup. So I will stick with my original comment. But yes I agree that stereo mixed track would sound bad through all speakers
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Strange argument ?
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Old 07-20-2014, 02:28 PM   #19  
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Strange argument ?
What is strange is that everyone loves multi channel audio greater than 2 tracks (stereo), yet no one can explain why it is superior to stereo.
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It's been explained to you several times. But, you simply reject the explanation. While we have two ears, sound originates from all around us. 5.1 and 7.1 do better job than stereo when it comes to producing sound that matches the real world environment.
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It's been explained to you several times. But, you simply reject the explanation. While we have two ears, sound originates from all around us. 5.1 and 7.1 do better job than stereo when it comes to producing sound that matches the real world environment.
It almost seems like we are being punked. The thread has turned silly.
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What is strange is that everyone loves multi channel audio greater than 2 tracks (stereo), yet no one can explain why it is superior to stereo.
Ok, go troll somewhere else now.
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Old 07-20-2014, 05:51 PM   #23  
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It's been explained to you several times. But, you simply reject the explanation. While we have two ears, sound originates from all around us. 5.1 and 7.1 do better job than stereo when it comes to producing sound that matches the real world environment.
If I were to continually tell you the sky was blue, it wouldn't actually explain why now would? WHY does it do a better job than stereo? Don't just reiterate the fact in question! What are you like 12?
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It almost seems like we are being punked. The thread has turned silly.
I have a genuine question, and it seems that all the answers are indeed silly. Good observation
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Old 07-20-2014, 05:54 PM   #25  
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Ok, go troll somewhere else now.
Ahh, the classic response to a difficult question. You are reverse trolling

Look at this http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...verse+Trolling

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ass posted at :http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/49...tereo-surround

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On 28 Jan 2005 22:56:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Could someone explain me why is the surround sound better than stereo
>if the human ears are just two?

Because your ears let you hear sounds from all around you, not just
from two sources in the front.

>i.e., is it not possible to simulate real world sound using just two
>audio sources?

No. All real musical events are heard in the context of the acoustics
of the performing space. You cannot reproduce that space with only
two sources.

>what additional features do the surround add to the stereo?

See above.

>if there are several audio sources (5.1 in a modern surround system)
>but only 2 ears, how can the human brain qualify as better the surround
>audio?

Question makes no sense. The human brain can, using input from the
two ears, interpret the source of sound in all three dimensions
(although it is better at some than others).
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Difficult questions I have no problem with. Obtuse ones are another story.
I don't see why one or the other has to be superior . Each have a place in their own application .
That like asking me why do I like apples but not peaches?
Tell me why peaches are superior.
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If I were to continually tell you the sky was blue, it wouldn't actually explain why now would? WHY does it do a better job than stereo? Don't just reiterate the fact in question! What are you like 12?
My only repetition has been the explanation, the one you continue to ignore.

Again - Why is it better to array speakers with discrete sounds all around the listener rather than limit source content to a pair of speakers just in front? Because that better replicates the way sound is generated in the real world.

Perhaps, you'll respond to that explanation at some point. Or, perhaps not.

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Thanks for finding that, however it still doesn't answer my question, in that thread, the response is in reference to stereo from the front, I'm talking about stereo from headphones, stereo from headphones allows us to hear the sound from all around just like 5.1. So why have surround sound. Soo far, I think the purpose of surround sound is to try and provide the same effect you get from stereo headphones, but without having to put something on you ears.
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My only repetition has been the explanation, the one you continue to ignore.

Again - Why is it better to array speakers with discrete sounds all around the listener rather than limit source content to a pair of speakers just in front? Because that better replicates the way sound is generated in the real world.

Perhaps, you'll respond to that explanation at some point. Or, perhaps not.
Sorry, I wasn't talking about stereo speakers infront, I was talking about stereo headphones.
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