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Old 11-22-2013, 03:34 PM   #1  
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Default Pioneer VSX-1023-K 7.1 - Need Speakers

Hello all

I've spent the last few hours looking around here, and man do I feel

I am looking for something to start out with. I got a good deal on the Pioneer receiver (so I think). Now, I am looking for a speaker system. I have looked at building my own on a few sites, but in the end, I am not wanting to spend $2k on speakers right from the beginning.


My budget is between 6-800. I don't mind spending a little more or less if there isn't going to be much benefit for the extra price, or a little more will make a substantial difference.

I haven't had much luck finding something in a complete system.

This is well below my price point: edit- cant post links- Onkyo SKS-HT870 7.1-channel Home Theater Speaker System Black on accessories4less dot com

But I have read quite a few posts in my limited reading that Onkyo is a good bang for buck system.

I also looked on Crutchfield (seem pretty overpriced). It seemed the Polk speakers were pretty well reviewed, and they are having a deal where if you spend so much money on speakers, get 300 towards a sub.

Please go easy on the noob, and thanks in advance for any recommendations!

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Old 11-22-2013, 08:21 PM   #2  
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Speaker preference is highly personal. I suggest visiting some stores, real AV shops of you have any in your area. Listen to what they have in your price range. Your budget is pretty low for five speakers and a sub, though.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:30 PM   #3  
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Since you already have a receiver I suggest the following

Klipsch Synergy F-20 $149 x 2=$298 + free shipping) =Front L + R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882780027

Klipsch C-10 center $99 or C-20 center (recommended) = $199 Free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882780031
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882780030

Klipsch Synergy B-20 PAIR = $149
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882780029

That is either $450 or $550 (depending on center)
For sub there are a number of choices but I recommend a HSU VTF-1 MK2. $419
http://hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-1mk2.html

A little higher than what you can get a sub for but here is a review from a well known respected reviewer for a seven year warranty and 30 day money back guarantee certainly not unreasonable.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-57...mk2-subwoofer/

That puts you at $969 getting the smaller center $1069 getting the larger
but if you skimp on the sub some and go elsewhere then you can get in for less
here is something that shaves $200 off above (taking you to $769 and $869 respectively) but there is a difference
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Mon...nity+subwoofer

That would be a 5.1 surround system that would certainly be one that you can be very content. Many other choices but sound is subjective to some degree and listening / Auditioning (like the poster above me put) is HIGHLY
recommended especially since they are something you will live with in an ongoing basis.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:26 PM   #4  
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So it looks like I may be better off getting something cheaper (the onkyo setup) for now, and saving. I thought with already having the receiver, I could get a decent setup staying around the price point I mentioned. This is all new to me, so I think I am in store for more reading and researching.

I plan on spending my Sunday going to a few different stores to see what I can listen to. I appreciate the help and recommendations. Crossing my fingers for a new job, and that may open up the budget a bit.

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Old 11-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #5  
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The other choice: get the AVR and two or three speakers. Save some more until you can add the sub. And, finish up with the surrounds when you can afford them. But, make sure the AVR has the features you need now and in the foreseeable future. It needs to work as the foundation of your finished system, otherwise you'll need to upgrade it, too, later on.
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Old 11-23-2013, 08:53 PM   #6  
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here are other options that gets you in under budget but isn't quite ad high end
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882981012
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882981013

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Since you already have a receiver I suggest the following

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That would be a 5.1 surround system that would certainly be one that you can be very content. Many other choices but sound is subjective to some degree and listening / Auditioning (like the poster above me put) is HIGHLY
recommended especially since they are something you will live with in an ongoing basis.
All the prices have went up... Guess they are getting ready for Black Friday pricing.... Raise them up so it looks like a better deal.

I think I am going to piece together these speakers over the holidays, that way its not a big chunk all at once, and I am not having to repurchase something.
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All the prices have went up... Guess they are getting ready for Black Friday pricing.... Raise them up so it looks like a better deal.

I think I am going to piece together these speakers over the holidays, that way its not a big chunk all at once, and I am not having to repurchase something.
Nick, just as a heads-up, if your going to 'piece' together your sound system, to create an accurate soundfield you have to use the same speakers for you frt's and center (same make and type) so you will create a seamless sound stage. The rears and surrounds do not need to be matched to frts, as rear/surrounds are not as critical to this effect.
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The two 5.1 Martin Logan systems listed are still $299 and $199 (that seems to be a pretty frequent/constant discount on these two systems) so if you want to get in at entry level you can or it is always fine to wait and/or even get just 2 fronts to start , then add a center , then a sub, then surrounds as funds permit but as Rizz stated it is important to match the front left/right/center speakers.
The pitfall is that 'for just a little bit more' you can always improve a good bit typically until you get to the $1500 mark or so then it seems to be diminishing returns.

Although the list MAP/MSRP prices on my speakers is pretty much right at $2k I ended up saving a bit here and there and spent $1,500 which does seem like a lot but that was beginning of 2008 so I have gotten 5 years use so far and expect to see another 5 at minimum - my system sounds and looks as good today as the day I bought it. I just recently got a notice that my five year warranty is up (along with offers to purchase additional coverage at a ridiculous price of course) so If I break $1500 down over 10 years I am looking at $150 /year which is reasonable to me.

Sales come and go on many manufacturers and certain others have controlled pricing so they oretty much are always the sam price.
Whatever you do I recommend you stay far away from BOSE overpriced and poor sound qualty - what they have going for them is the hype machine and the small size whixh is the WAF (wife acceptance factor)

Dependong on how serious or how much you really care about the end product IMHO it is worth it to wait take the time to audition several different brands/models figure out what really sounds good to you and then start to see if you can fit that in your budget or find it at a reasonable price to you. If you do it right in the end you will be amazed at what a good set-up can bring to the viewing experience or even just old fashioned 'just listening to music'

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Just wanted to stop back in and thank everyone for their recommendations.

I ended up going with Klipsch speakers. F-30 towers, C-20 Center Channel, B-20 Bookshelf's, and the HSU sub. The system sounds amazing, and I am really happy I pieced it together and didn't go with anything cheaper.

Now, the only complaint I have is the receiver. When the system is turned up, its sounds great. But I feel the voices in quieter sections get muffled/are hard to hear. I have attempted adjusted the settings, but it may just be that I suck at doing that. Trying to set up pandora was a pain, and I ended up just giving up on it, as I can stream through my blu ray player or TV.

Anyone have any suggestions about the delay between the sound and picture? I have looked, and was not able to find anything besides setting a delay. I wish there was a setting that would auto detect this and get it closer. Would a higher end receiver be able to do this?

Overall, I am very satisfied, but think I may be missing out because of the receiver.

The menu interface looks like its from the 90's.
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Glad you are happy with your speakers that is a good set-up . Don't have time to look at that receiver model right now but maybe later this evening I will take a quick look and see If I have any suggestions.

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The system sounds amazing, and I am really happy I pieced it together and didn't go with anything cheaper.
not unusual to hear that at all. Also the quality of your system should last you for years. Better to have spent a little dough if possible and be happy - you see you can get a great sound without gettin outrageous or unreasonably expensive.
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not unusual to hear that at all. Also the quality of your system should last you for years. Better to have spent a little dough if possible and be happy - you see you can get a great sound without gettin outrageous or unreasonably expensive.
I was a little worried seeing people spending several thousand
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I spent around $1500 on my speaker setup in the beginning of 2008 - 6 years later and they still sound awesome and should last me for many more years so I don't have any regrets but I undertstand that not everybody is as enthusiastic about sound and not everybody can or is willing to spend that much.
The important thing is that have realistic expectations for your budget and that ultimately you are satisfied with your purchase.

Now for your receive r- have you used the MCACC set-up with the microphone as described on page 23 of the owners manual. Make sure also that it is enabled as described on page 36 also try using phase control as also described on page 36 You can also adjust the sound delay to better enable lip synch as described on page 37 - between these items you should be able to get your sound to where you like it - the other option is to boost the center channel sound level manually. Good luck.

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Old 06-05-2014, 05:51 PM   #14  
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Try looking at Fluance
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