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Old 10-19-2012, 11:28 PM   #16  
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If you are using 22 or 20 gauge wire and switch to 16 gauge or larger, you will notice an improvement in volume and sound quality. And, as mentioned before, this will allow your receiver to run cooler.
Finally someone understands a simple question; thx Rev for the response. I am looking @ the Roger Russell chart so i am not totally slow but i appreciate a straight forward answer.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:25 AM   #17  
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Finally someone understands a simple question; thx Rev for the response. I am looking @ the Roger Russell chart so i am not totally slow but i appreciate a straight forward answer.
I disagree with hdrev, sound quality- you most likely will not hear a difference but you will run cooler - my answer was straightforward before.
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That depends on how far out of recommendations you are but what you will more likely do is burn up your amplifier or damage your speakers if too far over or underpowered as a result of poor current flow.
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You are not going to hear a sound diff unless you are waaaay out of recommended wire gauge but if you underpower speakers they will clip, distort and damage and if you overpower them (to thin a gauge ) your amp will/may overheat.

Straightforward and what I said earlier.

I went from 20 gauge 'speaker wire' to 14 gauge lamp cord and nobody (out of 5 people) could hear any difference at all

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Old 10-20-2012, 08:38 AM   #18  
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I am not disagreeing, I was just looking for a simple answer & rev did just that. jk, you may have explained it well, but the simpler the better for me. i worked in the healthcare field for 29+ years & I know that docs have the tendency to explain things to people actually above the persons level of medical knowledge... so, i would, if needed, explain it in layman's terms so the client may have a better understanding, which rev did for me!
jk, when u responded u assumed i understood all the jargon & terminology; & now that i have read Russell i can somewhat understand better. Russell does speak of "When differences can be heard" re: freq & impedance; & some of what i learned, in another lifetime, about the electrical basics, has come back a bit but, at the time, i was just wanting a very simple answer because i am not that knowledgeable. i am just starting out learning about audio. You, jk, on the other hand sound as though u r very knowledgeable, kind of like an M.D. specialist; so, i needed a translator i guess.
jk, u r correct & so is rev; just coming at it differently.
i did go out & look @ some 16ga but my old eyes couldn't see a difference from what i am currently using, so i am taking a sample of this 40y/o wire w/ me.
i also cleaned up the contact points of the wire & speakers when i took my sample, so maybe, just maybe i will notice a difference & my amp will run cooler!
Thx, guys, for the intel
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:41 AM   #19  
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Go with lamp cord.
Recommendations for 12 gauge ROMEX is preposterous for audio unless you are in charge of sound for Radio Cityy Music Hall.
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OK... so i replaced the front & rear speaker wires with a 16 ga speaker wire that was 16.20 for a roll of 100 ft.(originally 24.97 but i mentioned that i saw the same wire, manufacturer, ga & length at another retailer for 17.99 & they matched it less 10%; good deal?)
Guess what? I'll tell you what (chuckle)! At first i was worried when i turned on the FM band & listened but then i went to "Star Wars" THX & i actually decreased the master volume by 11%. I also adjusted the rear surrounds from +3 to -1(scale being -10 to +10), that's about( according to my math 4/20 or 1/5 or) 20% difference! The woofer, in the 3-way hlx speakers, does its job too; vibrating during those BOOM times! Watching 1 movie, the lamp about 10 feet away from the speakers, made some vibrating noise during a car crash!
I was impressed!
Conclusion; appropriately larger gauge wire ( & possibly newer), secure & clean speakers = better sound quality w/ a decreased total output (volume)

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I wanted to jump in here. OK, I bought this surround system in a parking lot...no lectures, please...it was an impulse buy. Anyway, now that I 'own' it, I hooked it all up and it works pretty well, really, considering I find NOTHING about this system (Xtreme XD=350) I didn't pay a lot for it, so I won't have to mortgage the farm, but I am wondering if I can improve the sound with better speaker wires. The furnished wires are 18 AWG. I was reading about which wires to use here, and went to the great link on wire size versus run, etc. Then, as I read on, the article states that the recommendations are based on pure copper wire. It further stated that the CCA wire would be about 61% less conductivity.

According to their chart, I could use 18AWG for my longest run of about 25 ft, but translating that to using CCA makes me go, huh?

I am, by no means, any kind of expert, nor could I hear subtle differences....however, I WOULD like to maximize the performance and if 20 bucks of wire would make any kind of difference, then I want to do it.

The box this system came in advertised 2500 total system power. The enclosed manual says the speakers are 12W (80W subwoofer) peak. OK, quit laughing.....remember, I am old and as cantankerous as Clint Eastwood in Gran Turino. And, about as savvy as most 66 year old dudes.
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I wanted to jump in here. OK, I bought this surround system in a parking lot...no lectures, please...it was an impulse buy. Anyway, now that I 'own' it, I hooked it all up and it works pretty well, really, considering I find NOTHING about this system (Xtreme XD=350) I didn't pay a lot for it, so I won't have to mortgage the farm, but I am wondering if I can improve the sound with better speaker wires. The furnished wires are 18 AWG. I was reading about which wires to use here, and went to the great link on wire size versus run, etc. Then, as I read on, the article states that the recommendations are based on pure copper wire. It further stated that the CCA wire would be about 61% less conductivity.

According to their chart, I could use 18AWG for my longest run of about 25 ft, but translating that to using CCA makes me go, huh?

I am, by no means, any kind of expert, nor could I hear subtle differences....however, I WOULD like to maximize the performance and if 20 bucks of wire would make any kind of difference, then I want to do it.

The box this system came in advertised 2500 total system power. The enclosed manual says the speakers are 12W (80W subwoofer) peak. OK, quit laughing.....remember, I am old and as cantankerous as Clint Eastwood in Gran Turino. And, about as savvy as most 66 year old dudes.
You can run pure gold wires to those speakers and you will not detect a difference.
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