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Old 01-22-2010, 06:49 PM   #31  
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even tho the paradigm's are bookshelves, do they sound as full as towers?
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even tho the paradigm's are bookshelves, do they sound as full as towers?
I'm not familiar with the bookshelves you guys are talking about but bookshelves in general don't have the bass extention as a floorstanding speaker nor will they "color" in the same manner. This is more desirable when listening to 2 channel music. Also, the size of your room will dictate how many drivers you will need. Pair a good set of bookshelves with a good quality sub and give them sufficient power and you should be in HT heaven.
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I'm not familiar with the bookshelves you guys are talking about but bookshelves in general don't have the bass extention as a floorstanding speaker nor will they "color" in the same manner. This is more desirable when listening to 2 channel music. Also, the size of your room will dictate how many drivers you will need. Pair a good set of bookshelves with a good quality sub and give them sufficient power and you should be in HT heaven.
im hoping im in heaven man this is kind of a cheap setup so im not sure how it'll sound yet

Without listening to much stuff yet, this is where i stand:

Receiver: Onkyo sr706 - $430
Fronts: Paradigm SE1's - $600(Pair)
Center: Paradigm CC-290 - $350
Sub: Elemental Designs a2-300 - $350
Rears: Paradigm Atoms - $189(Pair)

Total: $1919

Seems like a pretty decent HT setup. I gotta get to an audio place and listen to this stuff first though

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Old 01-23-2010, 12:55 AM   #34  
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im hoping im in heaven man this is kind of a cheap setup so im not sure how it'll sound yet

Without listening to much stuff yet, this is where i stand:

Receiver: Onkyo sr706 - $430
Fronts: Paradigm SE1's - $600(Pair)
Center: Paradigm CC-290 - $350
Sub: Efficient Dynamics a2-300 - $350
Rears: Paradigm Atoms - $189(Pair)

Total: $1919

Seems like a pretty decent HT setup. I gotta get to an audio place and listen to this stuff first though
That, my friend will be a killer sound system...
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Old 01-23-2010, 08:53 AM   #35  
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im hoping im in heaven man this is kind of a cheap setup so im not sure how it'll sound yet

Without listening to much stuff yet, this is where i stand:

Receiver: Onkyo sr706 - $430
Fronts: Paradigm SE1's - $600(Pair)
Center: Paradigm CC-290 - $350
Sub: Efficient Dynamics a2-300 - $350
Rears: Paradigm Atoms - $189(Pair)

Total: $1919

Seems like a pretty decent HT setup. I gotta get to an audio place and listen to this stuff first though
Who is Efficient Dynamics??? When you said ED, I thought you meant Elemental Designs. I have my sub(A7-450) from Elemental Designs, and that thing is a beast, shakes the whole house..

Why don't you forgo Rears and invest the 189 into the center, or the sub.. Just a thought, unless you really want 5.1.
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Who is Efficient Dynamics??? When you said ED, I thought you meant Elemental Designs. I have my sub(A7-450) from Elemental Designs, and that thing is a beast, shakes the whole house..

Why don't you forgo Rears and invest the 189 into the center, or the sub.. Just a thought, unless you really want 5.1.
haha woops i screwed that one up there. it is elemental designs. i probably just made up the efficient dynamics.

and i might forgo the atoms. but the cc-290 is nice for a center, and the next upgrade is the cc-390 and thats just to big.

i think this sub will be good, and if its not i can always upgrade in the future
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I posted the same question on AVS forum, and this is what one guy said:

"After looking at the SE1's specs the output might disappoint you. With the poor 85db/w efficency and 75 watt power handling doesn't make for a system with a lot of output. They simply could not keep up with the ED at higher levels. This is fine if you want to watch movie or music at moderate levels but being a college kid I get the idea you might get the urge to crank it. The paradigm at 64 watts would get you 103 db. The Klipsch RF-52s are rated at 96db/watt which would give you 114db, with much less strain, which is around the capabilities of the sub. I am no means a Paradigm hater, I know they make a very good product. However, I think the Klipsch better suit the setup unless you could upgrade to a bigger pair of Paradigms with better sensitivity."

This is a problem because i would want it to be played pretty loud. not sure if i would need it over 100db, but its a possibility
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I posted the same question on AVS forum, and this is what one guy said:

"After looking at the SE1's specs the output might disappoint you. With the poor 85db/w efficency and 75 watt power handling doesn't make for a system with a lot of output. They simply could not keep up with the ED at higher levels. This is fine if you want to watch movie or music at moderate levels but being a college kid I get the idea you might get the urge to crank it. The paradigm at 64 watts would get you 103 db. The Klipsch RF-52s are rated at 96db/watt which would give you 114db, with much less strain, which is around the capabilities of the sub. I am no means a Paradigm hater, I know they make a very good product. However, I think the Klipsch better suit the setup unless you could upgrade to a bigger pair of Paradigms with better sensitivity."

This is a problem because i would want it to be played pretty loud. not sure if i would need it over 100db, but its a possibility
And my response to that is, the efficiency of the SE1 is 89db not 85db. Where he gets the 75 watt power handling not producing loud sound I don't understand either. Has He ever heard them? He certainly got a lot of the facts wrong. He stated he is not a Paradigm hater which means he is...Much FUD in that response.

The SE1's sound much sweeter than the Klipsch in any case and can be driven to ear splitting levels without damage. Go audition some for yourself and see (hear).

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Having the monitor series I can say without hesitation that it does not take a lot of power to really make this things crank. You really need to go and listen for yourself but the system you listed above would kick ass like you can't imagine. I drove my 7.1 paradigm system with the onkyo 606 and it was ample to drive them to ear shattering levels if you so desired without any distortion.
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having the monitor series i can say without hesitation that it does not take a lot of power to really make this things crank. You really need to go and listen for yourself but the system you listed above would kick ass like you can't imagine. I drove my 7.1 paradigm system with the onkyo 606 and it was ample to drive them to ear shattering levels if you so desired without any distortion.
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i can tell you love these paradigms man

im going to try and get a package deal and buy two sets of paradigms at the same time. hopefully we'll get some sort of discount.
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i can tell you love these paradigms man

im going to try and get a package deal and buy two sets of paradigms at the same time. hopefully we'll get some sort of discount.
I hope that works out for you. Yes I do love Paradigm as well as Revel, Theil, Martin Logan, REL, PSB, Totem, Infinity and a few others. They offer the tops in performance at their given prices...
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When I was looking to begin building my set-up a few years ago, I received many suggestions and nearly just bought blind based on reports and reviews. Loves2watch suggested that it would be worth the trip to seek out a dealer and listen to some Paradigms as I was looking for great value. One of the best things I ever did.

I have been ecstatic with my purchases. I listened to many of the popular "upper level" brands and the value and performance of Paradigm to me is unmatched. My brother in law spent over twice what I did to get Bowers and wilkins in his HT and every time he comes over and hears mine he nearly cries thinking about what he could have saved.

Hopefully you can get a bit of a discount buying multiples but probably not a lot (every little bit helps) by producing their speakers entirely in house and limiting distribution outlets paradigm has been able to control costs and pass along savings pretty well. My Titan monitors at the time I bought them were $500/pr (a little more these days) and easily outperformed many $1000 ea. speakers I heard.
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When I was looking to begin building my set-up a few years ago, I received many suggestions and nearly just bought blind based on reports and reviews. Loves2watch suggested that it would be worth the trip to seek out a dealer and listen to some Paradigms as I was looking for great value. One of the best things I ever did.

I have been ecstatic with my purchases. I listened to many of the popular "upper level" brands and the value and performance of Paradigm to me is unmatched. My brother in law spent over twice what I did to get Bowers and wilkins in his HT and every time he comes over and hears mine he nearly cries thinking about what he could have saved.

Hopefully you can get a bit of a discount buying multiples but probably not a lot (every little bit helps) by producing their speakers entirely in house and limiting distribution outlets paradigm has been able to control costs and pass along savings pretty well. My Titan monitors at the time I bought them were $500/pr (a little more these days) and easily outperformed many $1000 ea. speakers I heard.
Well im sure its a good time to buy right now. the economy is still struggling and many people have not been buying the HT equipment in the last couple of years. Hopefully these dealers will be eager to sell.

and at $600 a pair for SE1's, if they sound as good as i think they will, will be a bargain anyways so i wont mind spending the money.
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When I was looking to begin building my set-up a few years ago, I received many suggestions and nearly just bought blind based on reports and reviews. Loves2watch suggested that it would be worth the trip to seek out a dealer and listen to some Paradigms as I was looking for great value. One of the best things I ever did.

I have been ecstatic with my purchases. I listened to many of the popular "upper level" brands and the value and performance of Paradigm to me is unmatched. My brother in law spent over twice what I did to get Bowers and wilkins in his HT and every time he comes over and hears mine he nearly cries thinking about what he could have saved.

Hopefully you can get a bit of a discount buying multiples but probably not a lot (every little bit helps) by producing their speakers entirely in house and limiting distribution outlets paradigm has been able to control costs and pass along savings pretty well. My Titan monitors at the time I bought them were $500/pr (a little more these days) and easily outperformed many $1000 ea. speakers I heard.
Another in the long, long line of testaments of the benefits of Paradigm speakers. They have been rated the best speakers in performance and value for something like 13 years in a row...Very high end speakers at very reasonable prices. You won't find this good a speaker line in Best Buy...
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