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Old 12-16-2019, 02:44 PM   #1  
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Default Harmony Hub IR Extension Cables

Holy cow I'm venturing outside the gaming forum for the first time since Blu-Ray was declared the victor LOL

I'm trying to avoid one of the crazy expensive Universal Remote Control products an installer said I had to have to make this work. He also said I had to have a $300 HDMI cable, so...

Here's my desired setup TV on the wall in living room. All equipment in a nearby closet including an AVR with HDMI Switching for DVR, PC, and BR player. Need to keep the Harmony IR Hub in the closet with the equipment, but obviously still need an IR solution to control the TV in the living room.

I've verified the bluetooth/RF connection from the companion remote to the hub is strong enough to work, so there's no issue with controlling the devices in the closet. But obviously, the hub being in the closet isn't going to turn on the TV without IR line of sight. As a result I'm thinking I need to run a ~30ft IR blaster extension cable from my hub in that closet up through the wall into the attic and then back down the wall with the TV coming out at the same point as the HDMI cable that will run from the AVR to the TV.

So ultimately... I'm hoping someone will be able to confirm that this is a reasonable execution. I'm not finding 30 Ft extension cables for a 2.5mm tip which the Logitech hub uses, but I am finding a 12 foot one that I'm assuming I can string two together and still work.

Thoughts? Ideas for a more elegant solution?
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Consider getting a second hub to locate at the TV? That should be fine assuming you are using RF for the remote. Not that familiar with the Harmony stuff, but we have used the URC RF hubs this way for projectors.
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Consider getting a second hub to locate at the TV? That should be fine assuming you are using RF for the remote. Not that familiar with the Harmony stuff, but we have used the URC RF hubs this way for projectors.
Unfortunately, it's IR for the TV and the Logitech companion remotes are bluetooth connected to the hub. There's not an emitter on the remote themselves.

I'll check with harmony about multiple hubs though. That might be an option.
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Assuming your hub will output an IR signal via an emitter, you can use a RF extender like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Direct...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

There other IR extenders that use RF signals as well.
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Assuming your hub will output an IR signal via an emitter, you can use a RF extender like this one:

There other IR extenders that use RF signals as well.
Hmmm... if I'm understanding correctly, I would have the Harmony Hub sending IR signal to one of those pucks in the closet. And then from there, I would have the other puck by the TV, or somewhere else in the room even. The puck in the closet transmits the "data" to the puck outside the closet?

Am I understanding the mechanics?
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Hmmm... if I'm understanding correctly, I would have the Harmony Hub sending IR signal to one of those pucks in the closet. And then from there, I would have the other puck by the TV, or somewhere else in the room even. The puck in the closet transmits the "data" to the puck outside the closet?

Am I understanding the mechanics?
Yes, you got it.
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Awesome. Thank you for the suggestion! I think this might fit the bill perfectly.
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Awesome. Thank you for the suggestion! I think this might fit the bill perfectly.
On the receiver at the TV, you could also get an emitter to attach to your TV to allow the puck to be out of sight.
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I also noticed on the discussion you started on the Gaming Forum the discussion about Plex. If you are going to try Plex on your PC, the Hauppauge WinTV-DualHD Dual USB 2.0 HD TV Tuner will interface with the Plex media center software to provide a full function over the air DVR as well as all of the other streaming possibilities.

You will also need an antenna for the tuners.

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After posting this I decided to install the plex server and player to check out its OTA functionality. I am looking for a suitable replacement for the Windows Media Center I currently use. To my disappointment, plex is not it. There is not any remote control support and the DVR setup is pretty difficult. And on live TV the software pauses often to buffer the video. So my search continues. I may just have to stick with the Widows Media Center even though Microsoft has abandoned it along with Windows 7. May not be a problem since the guide (which support stops in 2020) can be switched to the epg123 version.
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On the receiver at the TV, you could also get an emitter to attach to your TV to allow the puck to be out of sight.
We've settled on using an IR blaster attached to 30 feet of extension cable and keeping the logitech puck/hub in the closet with the equipment. We already have to run an HDMI cable through the attic from the closet to the TV, so we'll bundle it along with it. Should be pefect. Crossing my fingers.
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We've settled on using an IR blaster attached to 30 feet of extension cable and keeping the logitech puck/hub in the closet with the equipment. We already have to run an HDMI cable through the attic from the closet to the TV, so we'll bundle it along with it. Should be pefect. Crossing my fingers.
That should be ok. The blasters don't need much current so the voltage drop should be minimal.
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That should be ok. The blasters don't need much current so the voltage drop should be minimal.
Yeah, the 2-pack 12 foot option we found has multiple reviews/Q-A saying they specifically did it for their Harmony setups.
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I also noticed on the discussion you started on the Gaming Forum the discussion about Plex. If you are going to try Plex on your PC, the Hauppauge WinTV-DualHD Dual USB 2.0 HD TV Tuner will interface with the Plex media center software to provide a full function over the air DVR as well as all of the other streaming possibilities.

You will also need an antenna for the tuners.

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After posting this I decided to install the plex server and player to check out its OTA functionality. I am looking for a suitable replacement for the Windows Media Center I currently use. To my disappointment, plex is not it. There is not any remote control support and the DVR setup is pretty difficult. And on live TV the software pauses often to buffer the video. So my search continues. I may just have to stick with the Widows Media Center even though Microsoft has abandoned it along with Windows 7. May not be a problem since the guide (which support stops in 2020) can be switched to the epg123 version.
Rbinck, have you tried or looked at KODI (previously XBMC) not sure exactly what your needs are but it is pretty full featured
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Rbinck, have you tried or looked at KODI (previously XBMC) not sure exactly what your needs are but it is pretty full featured
Yes, and I agree with the full featured except for the OTA DVR capabilities. Maybe I'm being too picky trying to find a Windows Media Center duplicate. XBMC was an acronym for X Box Media Center which shared much of the first Windows Media Center capabilities, some of which have changed. I haven't looked at KODI recently so maybe I need to revisit to see if they have addressed OTA better.

Do you use it as an OTA DVR?
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