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Old 12-05-2005, 09:50 PM   #1  
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After looking online and in several stores for many weeks, it seems there is no perfect HDTV. Every last one of them, no matter what the technology, has some drawback that makes you think twice.

I think Ive narrowed my choices down to these 3:

Sony Grand Wega 50" 3LCD

Samsung 56" DLP

Panasonic 52" LCD

The Panasonic has a $200 rebate at Costco right now. The Samsung has a free DVD recorder rebate. I dont know how much Id use it because I have TiVO, but I was thinking of getting a new DVD player with progressive scan, and this has it, so...

I was looking at the JVC LCoS models, but I have read tons of reports that the bulbs are burning out in 3 to 5 months, so Im scared of them now. Too bad, because they look nice and I saw a 50" at Best Buy tonight for just under $2400, and had a stand.

Im on a strict budget of $2700 and not one penny more. That includes any cables I may need (so saith the wife).

My needs are:

A decent viewing angle. Due to the shape of my living room, I sit about 9 feet from the center of the TV. But the far end of my couch is about at a 50 angle, about 12-13 feet away.

I mainly watch DVDs. What little TV I watch would come from DirecTV.

I also have an Xbox. Im by no means a "gamer" but when I play, I want it to look nice.

So those are my priorities and my budget.

Also, if someone has an alternative that would be better than these 3, please post it. Im a n00b at this and my knowledge on this is limited.

And any known bulb issues with any of these manufacturers would be of great help.
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I also saw a Vizio 50" plasma at Costco... Never heard of them before. Is this worth considering?
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Your angles are fine for a RPLCD. I would go with the SONY 3LCD or the Panasonic. But take a look for yourself. If you think the PQ are comparable, then I would go with durability and reliability, SONY or Panasonic.
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did you look into the toshiba hm195. its in your price range. it comes with a cablebox built in, tv guide, 2 hdmi, c.c. slot, and it usscales hidh def to 1080p. here is a link to a site with this tv. just punch in your zip code and the site will calculate your shipping charges from each store. this tv is better then any of the ones you picked. its won alot of awards this year. i would stay away from sony unless its a crt. there not to reliable and sony has bad warranty support.

http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Toshi..._TV,__10462370
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Is there really that much of an advantage of a 3LCD over single LCD?

Ive tried looking for reviews on the Panasonic, but I think its just a Costco/Sams Club model. Cant seem to find anything on it.
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Is there really that much of an advantage of a 3LCD over single LCD?

Ive tried looking for reviews on the Panasonic, but I think its just a Costco/Sams Club model. Cant seem to find anything on it.
All rear projection LCD displays have 3 LCD panels. Don't get lost in the manufacturer's lingo. They come up with new names every year for the same thing.
DLP is different technology, as is Plasma, etc. etc.. Each technology has it's good and bad points. Go by what looks best to you within your budget.
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Hi Superman,

Wow, that is crazy.

You almost summed up exactly my situation. It was kind of strange....

Anyway, I have been researching very similar to yourself.

Had it narrowed down to Toshiba DLP vs. JVC LCoS. I'll second the person who said the Tosh DLPs look VERY nice. However, I was unable to get this set because the way they are set up with the speakers on the side adds about 10" to the width of the TV, making it too big for my space. I then started looking at the Samsung HL-R5067W (same set you are considering but the 50" model). Looked good the couple times I viewed it at stores. Also got reccomended it two out of two times by sales associates over the JVC at two different stores (mainly due to JVC's technology being less established.) However, the JVC did look good to me as well.

I think I am leaning towards the Samsung myself because I found a really good deal on it. The 50"model is currently on sale for $1,699 at Amazon, and I found a place that will match it, plus there is an additional $75 promo coupon available at that store. Basically, I could get the TV, stand and 5 year warranty for the price of just the TV at some of the more popular local stores.

Hard deal to pass up.
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I saw it last weekend at Costco for $2499, exactly the same price as the Pioneer 42" next to it. Considering Costco's unreal return policy I'd say the Vizio P50HDM, which comes with a Faroudja DCDI 10 bit processor and uses the latest LG glass, and includes 2 HDMI inputs (the P50HDM is a monitor only), is a terific bargin.
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Is there really that much of an advantage of a 3LCD over single LCD?

Ive tried looking for reviews on the Panasonic, but I think its just a Costco/Sams Club model. Cant seem to find anything on it.
All latest models of RPLCD by SONY, Panasonic, and Hitachi use the 3 LCD panels designed by Epson-Japan. 2004 models which still sell on some on-line stores and E-Bay use single panel.

You have to search using non-costco or Sam's club model numbers to find significant number reviews. Costco and Sam's Club models are almost identical to other "traditional" retail models. Try searching with "Panasonic PT-52LCX65 review". I found plenty.
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did you look into the toshiba hm195. its in your price range. it comes with a cablebox built in, tv guide, 2 hdmi, c.c. slot, and it usscales hidh def to 1080p. here is a link to a site with this tv. just punch in your zip code and the site will calculate your shipping charges from each store. this tv is better then any of the ones you picked. its won alot of awards this year. i would stay away from sony unless its a crt. there not to reliable and sony has bad warranty support.

http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Toshi..._TV,__10462370
This is your best DLP on the market. I would also consider the Panasonic PT-56DLX75.
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All latest models of RPLCD by SONY, Panasonic, and Hitachi use the 3 LCD panels designed by Epson-Japan. 2004 models which still sell on some on-line stores and E-Bay use single panel.

You have to search using non-costco or Sam's club model numbers to find significant number reviews. Costco and Sam's Club models are almost identical to other "traditional" retail models. Try searching with "Panasonic PT-52LCX65 review". I found plenty.

I did a search for the Panasonic and found that C-Net rates it only average (like 5.1 or 5.5 out iof 10) wheras the Sony was rated about 7.3 or soemthing like that.

I read several owners' comments, and they rated the Panasonic much higher.

Im wondering how much I should pay attention to C-Net, if at all...
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Go look at the TV and you be the judge. What makes the geeks at C-Net a better judge than your own EYE. Reliability-wise, cannot go wrong with Panasonic or SONY. Toshiba too for that matter.
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Yeah, thats true. Its just that Costco is so damn bright. I have serious doubts that bothered to calibrate the things. I guess Ill buy what looks best and take it back if I dont like it. Costco is very good on returns.
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Yeah, thats true. Its just that Costco is so damn bright. I have serious doubts that bothered to calibrate the things. I guess Ill buy what looks best and take it back if I dont like it. Costco is very good on returns.

That's exactly what kept me from getting a set from Costco, so far. It's so bright in there I don't know what I'm getting.
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I have serious doubts that bothered to calibrate the things.
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