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Old 12-18-2019, 02:58 PM   #1  
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Thinking Samsung 82", QLED 80 or 90R. for the TV.
a Denon AVR-S750H to run up to 7.1.2. Might need to upgrade it.
Speakers??? Looking at Klipsch R-820F 7.1.2 Dolby Atmos Home Theater System. This is top of the line? Bose, Kenwood? Defiantly need help with getting the most sound for the least price. I would like "TrueHD" quality, but must decide between systems and cost...

Any help would be greatly appreciated....
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Old 12-18-2019, 06:53 PM   #2  
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Thinking Samsung 82", QLED 80 or 90R. for the TV.
a Denon AVR-S750H to run up to 7.1.2. Might need to upgrade it.
Speakers??? Looking at Klipsch R-820F 7.1.2 Dolby Atmos Home Theater System. This is top of the line? Bose, Kenwood? Defiantly need help with getting the most sound for the least price. I would like "TrueHD" quality, but must decide between systems and cost...

Any help would be greatly appreciated....
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1) Budget - total and/or for each component tv, receivers, speakers?
2) are you looking for best value or highest quality for the amount you have to spend?
3) size room? is lighting controllable?l
4) Strictly for Home theater or will you be using for music?

these will help recommendations
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:02 PM   #3  
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1. $1k to 3k for tuner and speakers.ld start at 5.1.2 Atmos to start, Must be able to add speakers later to 7.2.4. tv-1,000. to
3,000. might wait for Q90R's or equivalent to drop in price.
2. Highest Quality.
3. 14ft x 24 ft
4. mostly for movies. but I would like to hear some tunes, now and again...

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Old 12-20-2019, 08:27 AM   #4  
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Here is a suggestion for the video portion of your system. Get a 4K projector for the movies and sports and a 65" 1080p TV for daytime viewing. A motorized screen can be used to lower in front of the TV when in use. I just use my wall right now, but I have a motorized screen ordered. Here is a photo of my setup right now:



Now for the audio, I think your Denon receiver would be fine for the front and surround speakers. You can't really get great LFE and bass without using a high powered subwoofer. I use an Sunfire True MKII which are available on ebay for well under $1,000 from time to time. But there are others like a Velodyne subwoofer. Speakers is where I'd spend your audio money and use the receiver you have.
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Thinking Samsung 82", QLED 80 or 90R. for the TV.
a Denon AVR-S750H to run up to 7.1.2. Might need to upgrade it.
Speakers??? Looking at Klipsch R-820F 7.1.2 Dolby Atmos Home Theater System. This is top of the line? Bose, Kenwood? Defiantly need help with getting the most sound for the least price. I would like "TrueHD" quality, but must decide between systems and cost...

Any help would be greatly appreciated....
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I would opt for the Denon AVR-X2600H and on sale at Denon, Crutchfield and Best Buy for $549. The "4K Video Upscaling," is worth the extra $$. It will have the TrueHD too, plus some other fine features.

What size room will you be installing your equipment? So, what is your budget not to break the bank???

You mentioned Klipsch R-820F, tower main front speakers, Okay, fine, for what size room?? The Center speaker is the most important....long story short and DON'T skimp on that. Then you have to have the surround speakers. Then the need for a Klipsch subwoofer.

Myself, I prefer Klipsch Speakers.

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Old 12-27-2019, 09:03 AM   #6  
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Hi teetertotter, The Denon AVR-X2600H Looks good.
Room is 16' X 22' X10'H. Budget is open,3 to 5k. Depending on system.
I have a 55" samsung now. Thinking about a 4K Projector. 120" screen for movies and Sports. Speakers, Projector and screen knowledge I am lacking,
but in the process of learning. Help would be greatly appreciated.
Was looking at the Klipsch R-820F 7.1.2 Dolby Atmos Home Theater System on their website. Probably could build a better one with a little help. Could put in ceiling speakers, and possibly in wall set-up. am redesigning Living room.

Projector, or 82" TV? possibly wait for the Q90R to drop in price?

Any help is appreciated... Thanx....
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Hi teetertotter, The Denon AVR-X2600H Looks good.
Room is 16' X 22' X10'H. Budget is open,3 to 5k. Depending on system.
I have a 55" samsung now. Thinking about a 4K Projector. 120" screen for movies and Sports. Speakers, Projector and screen knowledge I am lacking,
but in the process of learning. Help would be greatly appreciated.
Was looking at the Klipsch R-820F 7.1.2 Dolby Atmos Home Theater System on their website. Probably could build a better one with a little help. Could put in ceiling speakers, and possibly in wall set-up. am redesigning Living room.

Projector, or 82" TV? possibly wait for the Q90R to drop in price?

Any help is appreciated... Thanx....
FWIW i HAVE A 55" 4K hdr tv set on the wall and a motorized 105" screen that lowers in front of it with 1080p projector and use the same surround system. It works well and I love mine if you have good light control but with the reduction in price of large flat panels now if I was doing it over I would probably get a 75" or 80" 4K HDR screen (true 4k projector prices, not 'pixel shift''/e-shift are still too high IMHO and screens can get pricey as well for tensioned motorized but flat fixed screen permanent screens are much more affordable.)

Klipsch seem to be a love it or hate it type of speaker with the horn loaded tweeter. Personally I love Paradigm and as they own their own production facilities they tend to be very competitively priced.

If it were my money I would go with Paradigm monitor SE 600f ($374.25 x2)= $748.50 , center Monitor SE 200c $164.25, surrounds Monitor Atom SE 238.50/pr x2 (1 surround 1 atmos surround or height) = $477
total=$1389.75
Subwoofer=SVS SB3000 = $999 (could save a little money and get SB 2000 $799, PB2000 pro $899 but saving $100-$200 going smaller and less power not worth it imho)
$1389+$999=$2,388 complete AWESOME speaker set-up

For receivers I would consider either Marantz 7013 $1299, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701 $899, INTEGRA
DRX-4.2 $599, or Denon AVR X4500H $899- those receiver prices are all from accessories4less.com & you won't find cheaper anywhere else - many of us on this forum have been ordering from them for years.

At roughly 3K that gives you tremendous 5.1.2 Atmos audio that will be around for 10+years (I have had my Paradigm monitor set-up since 2007 and it still sounds phenomenal to this day)
My $0.02 (2 cents)

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If you want you can weed through here and ask questions and might get more responses:https://www.highdefforum.com/speaker...ound-sound-42/

Everyone has their niches with suggestive input. You can google 5.1, 7.1 speaker guide, for example. Surf around and see what you come up with. Also, there are more specific forums too, with comments. Go with the flow, with what might fit your needs, as there is help for the decision making process. You can also look up SPECIFIC speaker reviews that you might have in mind, from various sources that come up, to arrive at your conclusions. Go directly to the speaker mfgs for suggestions too, and ask for alternates, if you need.

**Make sure you mention room size and acoustics. Good luck.

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Recommendations for a good projector and motorized screen?
How large can you go for the best picture?
The image size will depend on the quality of the projector. Most moderate quality projectors will max out about 100 inches diagonal.

There are two issues that will limit screen size, focus and the light source. Depending on the optics of the projector there will be a range of distances from the screen where the image will focus. Secondly, the brightness of the image will then depend on the amount of light output the projector lamp is capable of which is usually measured in lumens. The more lumens a projector will put out the more expensive the projector will be.

Having said that for size, the quality of the picture will depend on several factors as well. DLP or LCD chips, room lighting, and native resolution are some of the factors. DLP projectors tend to be better than LCD projectors in my opinion, but generally cost more. DLP chips uses tiny mirrors which can an often do get stuck causing a white or black permanent pixel. DLP chips are difficult to repair. LCD projectors generally will have lower contrast than the DLP, but usually are less prone to failure.

Room lighting is very important for the quality of an image because the darkest any area of the image can get is going to be the darkness of the screen. If the room lights are on, the light from the room lights will be added to the light from the projector causing the image to wash out. There are ambient light rejecting screens (ALR) that will reduce room lighting effect on the image, but they also will reduce the viewing angles and are quite expensive.

The native resolution of the projector may be the most important thing to watch for in buying a projector. Most projectors will advertise the formats the projector will handle which should be of little concern to you and is often a misleading spec manufactures use to make the projector to look better than it actually is. For example, a VGA projector is usually 800x600 or 1024x768. The input spec may say 1080p supported, but it will rescale the image to 800x600 or 1024x768 depending on the native resolution of the projector. On large images you may see the spaces between the pixels or what is called the screen door effect. Getting a projector with a native resolution of 1080p would be the minimum for a 100" image, in my opinion.

For a low cost 1080p projector there is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For a low cost motorized screen there is this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HD-92-16-9-...53.m2749.l2649

Those will get you set up for under $500 and the projector will do about a 92" screen with plenty of brightness.
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Here's a link for the same projector with savings of approx $$

https://wikibuy.com/p/yaber-native-1...6-88490a34f793
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As PQ counts for a major portion of your budget To days movies re highly soundtracked so, as not to lose that impact select your speakers carefully. because poor sound quality is as distracting as poor visual effects. Try to balance your soundstage with L-C-R all of the same manufacturer and speaker 'size'(ie all 5" or 6")so as not to break up the front soundstage -. Vision a Speeding car roaring from the Left across the center and exit on the Right if they are not of equal size the smaller (Usually selected as center) will project a different sound pitch. not so critical with surrounds - rears and atmos. Most quality speaker builders are building in vertical directional firing speakers. Don't skimp on Subwoofer minimum 12". good Luck your budgets your limit.
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A couple of things regarding projectors, DLP are typically much more rigid/stringent on their placement. Placement matters because lining up an image is not always the easiest. Something called lens shift allows you to 'shift' the picture left/right (horiz lens shift) and up/down (vertical lens shift).
I would highly recommend checking ou thtis website\
www.Projectorcentral.com
It has reviews and articles about pretty much every projector ever made, all the specs, reviews and ratings for best HT projector $10,000 and under, $3000 and under, $1500 and under, $750 and under.
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I bought one for my bedroom to watch laying down and was surprised at the image. I paid $180.00, but now amazon price has constantly crept higher. $210 is better than the current amazon price.
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