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Old 12-10-2005, 03:07 PM   #1  
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I took the plunge ad just installed a CM 4228 with a CM777. (In my attic since it cannot be installed outside. I live in the 08801 zip code. Very wierd reception issue. I could not get any of the NY stations to come in clear, but I did get some Philly stations. They all appear to be coming from the same area, but ...the WB came in crystal clear, NBC on 10 was very good with very minor snow. ABC and CBS were horrible. All these cahnnels have the same compass reading and distance, but the difference in reception was tremendous. Are the signals that much weaker? Is there a way to check withour a meter? I have it attached to an older TV. If they are coming in digital, will they be better on a hi def TV. Only reason I am going this route is that Dish does not offer locals in HD. Really look forward to your advice. Thanks.
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Old 12-10-2005, 05:33 PM   #2  
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Your issue is pretty clear (no pun intended). You have attempted to use a UHF antenna to receive VHF channels. All the Philadelphia and NYC digital channels are on UHF, that is true, but the NYC network analog and the Philadelphia ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS stations are also in VHF. The 4228 is useless for analog channels 2-6, and WCBS, WNBC, WNYW from NYC and KYW and WPVI from Philly are on low-band VHF (2-6) You have two choices here: either invest in a digital tuner and connect it to your existing TV set, or buy a VHF only antenna to add to the 4228 and preamplifier! A Wade-Delhi VIP-306 is the preferred antenna for such an installation, but don't expect to put it in the attic: it's a monster!
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:02 PM   #3  
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Based on my comments above, do you think I will be able to get a clear reception if I invest in a digital tuner or HI Def TV? I am guessing since the WB is a highher frequency and it is clear, the lower will come in clear on HD. Or is the digitial signal weaker? I guess if all else fails, I will buy the Sony KDF-E42A10 for the upstairs TV and see if it will tune them in. If it won't and I can only get the regular DIsh channels, not a big problem since the kids use the TV most of the time. Gives them something else to complain about!
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The 4228 should be fine for your digital channels, however, since your antenna is in the attic, I can't assure you that you will see the NYC digital stations: you are about 20 miles closer to the Philly stations, and as long as you are satisfied with those, you should have no problem.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:36 PM   #5  
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In my attic since it cannot be installed outside.
Why can't it be outside?
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:36 PM   #6  
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Pretty upscale neighborhood. I may be able to get away with it on the chimney on the back side of the house, where it can't be seen from the street since it is a pretty small antenna. It won't be higher than the roofline, although I'll check the angle since the house may not be in the way. Second reason is it is just so much easier to put it in the attic. It's cold out there! Hopefully Dish will announce locals in HD and this will all go away. One last question. Will the OTA HD be cleaner than a cable or Dish HD signal since it is not compressed. Really appreciate all your insight.
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You do know that the HOA can not restrict your installation of an outside antenna no matter how upscale the neighborhood? Even if it is seen from the street. According to the Telecommunications Act of 1996, it is no longer legal for HOAs to restrict OTA antennas. See: Over-the-Air Reception Devices Rule

As far as the second reason, if you get what you want with it in the attic, hard to argue with! But maybe next summer....
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