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Old 06-09-2017, 02:17 PM   #1
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Like others here, I'm thinking of dumping DirecTV for OTA and Roku. We're in a 2-storey home with an attic about 30-40 miles from the Syracuse transmitters.

When we were in an apartment here I tried an Antennas Direct Clearstream 2V and got some of the locals from a blocked ground floor window.

Wondering if that would work from about 25' up, either inside the attic or on the east facing wall with aluminum siding?

Here's my TV Fool report.

Our house is at the bottom end of the road and the house to the east may be in the LOS, which has me wondering about reception.

Thanks for any advice.
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:09 PM   #2
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Hi Steve, well after a look at the TVfool report you may have to go as high as you can on the roof, and with the TV antenna inside an attic you will loose about 1/2 of the available signal strength from all channels.

Some stations are listed as first or second edge, this means that something is in the way.

Here is a horizontal plot of one of the stations listed as second edge, http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...dALLTV%26n%3d4 you are at the far right, the transmitter is at the far left, the Earth is in the way.

To see this plot for other stations just click on it's call sign.

So it looks like you may have to go as high as you can.
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Hello, Steve

It looks like your new house is close to your temporary location in your last thread.
http://www.highdefforum.com/1388387-post84.html

Do you still have the C2V to make some tests?

Your reception will depend upon the trees, the attic construction, and the buildings in the signal path. Testing is the only way to find out.

I see a lot of trees in your area.

If you send me your coordinates in a PM, I can look at the green signal lines in a satellite view. You can use the tvfool interactive map browser. The coordinates below the map will change as you move the cursor by drag and drop.
http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=90

for example:

oblique:



vertical:

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Old 06-10-2017, 06:47 AM   #4
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Thanks guys -- I appreciate the quick responses.

Our house is about 1 1/2 miles SE of the apartment we were in. The attic is open wood framed. Here's the view from the east facing window that is about 30' above the driveway.

I returned the C2V but I've been thinking of getting another or a Clear Stream 4 and see how the reception is.

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Like I said, they (or any antenna you choose) will work a lot better outside up on the peak of the roof, and by the looks of it on at least a 20 foot mast.
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Thanks for the images; very helpful.

Are the strips in the window wood or metal?

I suggest you try a DB4E in the window on the left side to help clear the roof next door for the ABC signal at 86 degrees true. The C4 is too wide to do that. If necessary, try moving even further to the left, not behind the window, and add a low gain preamp if necessary.

If you can't get it to work in the attic, then go outside.



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Old 06-19-2017, 02:36 PM   #7
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The house next door is going to be a problem, is there no way to put this up on the peak of the roof????

It will work one heck of a lot better.

And if your renting and your landlord is worrying about holes in the roof there are non-penetrating roof mounts you can use.

And if that is a brick chimney I see in the middle of your roof you could also get a chimney mount and use it.
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The roof and chimney are options, but only if we want to pay someone to go up there. 😉 Breaking an ankle in one ladder fall was one too many.
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I finally had the chance to get an antenna and see how it works in the attic.

I mounted it on a tripod and pointed it out the attic window that you can see in the photo I posted previously. I moved it to different directions towards the Syracuse towers, but the best I could get was 9 channels and only 3 networks.

Also tried Rabbit's suggestion of the window on the left side of the second floor (bottom of the attic stairs) but that only found two stations.

As Terryl3 says, I'm suspecting the roof of the house to our east is blocking the signal, and our aluminum siding probably isn't helping either. Putting it on the roof would only add a few more feet of elevation.

Thanks for all the help, but it looks like were stuck with DTV, unless we decide to try DirecTV Now.

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Thanks for the report.
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aluminum siding probably isn't helping either
Aluminum siding will block TV signals, so on the roof would be a big improvement.
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but the best I could get was 9 channels and only 3 networks.
What networks and callsigns did you get?
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I'm suspecting the roof of the house to our east is blocking the signal
So am I



and the tree two houses to the east doesn't help

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