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Old 12-12-2009, 08:46 AM   #1  
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Very new to forum.Looks great...a wealth of information here.
Electrical contractor looking for some advice with Directv coax wiring in my home.

I am upgrading all of the coax from the dish on out.I have 5lnb slimline to wb68 to (2) hddvr & (2) sd boxes.

I am running Belden 1694a..not familiar with this cable. Will a SNS1P6 compression connector (F) work with this cable? Or would I want to use the SNS1P6QS (quad shld F) connector? I am thinking this cable is slightly stouter than regular rg6 and may require the bigger connector.

I am on the right track here or about ready to go off the cliff? Thanks
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Old 12-12-2009, 10:45 AM   #2  
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Went to Belden site and found SNS6NS recommended for 1694a among others.
I am not familiar with nut and seal component of this connector.
Anyone have any experience with this connector and cable? Thanks
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:26 AM   #3  
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I've been using Thomas and Betts Snap 'n Seal sNS1P6 which seems to work well with just about any RG-6.

See here - http://www-public.tnb.com/ps/endeca/...294956312&Ntt=

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Hello
Very new to forum.Looks great...a wealth of information here.
Electrical contractor looking for some advice with Directv coax wiring in my home.

I am upgrading all of the coax from the dish on out.I have 5lnb slimline to wb68 to (2) hddvr & (2) sd boxes.

I am running Belden 1694a..not familiar with this cable. Will a SNS1P6 compression connector (F) work with this cable? Or would I want to use the SNS1P6QS (quad shld F) connector? I am thinking this cable is slightly stouter than regular rg6 and may require the bigger connector.

I am on the right track here or about ready to go off the cliff? Thanks
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Although Belden 1694A is indeed RG6 and will take the same F connectors as most other standard RG6 varieties, its primarily designed purpose is for serial digital video up to 3G -- not for RF. That's not to say it won't work, because it does; in a pinch I have used it for L-band feeds from our satellite dishes, and it works well enough.

The thing is, 1694A is a specialized type for a particular purpose and you pay a premium for that... at the station, we pay about $326 for a thousand-foot reel. Belden 9116 is a far more common RG6 type for RF, and its attenuation specs over the relevant band are not terribly different from 1694A for distances typical within a home. But 9116 costs only $74 for the same thousand feet, and has some other features that can be handy: its copper-clad steel center conductor is far stronger than 1694A's solid copper, so it will withstand pulling and bending better. It's also lighter, so if you have a long run up a mast, or along a messenger line, that's a good thing.

Bottom line: unless you plan to run serial digital video through your house, I don't see any technical justification for spending more than four times the money for 1694A.

Oh, one other point: whatever type of cable you get, make sure it's black. Other colors aren't UV resistant, and the outer jacket will break down after sufficient exposure to sunlight. (We had a fellow who assumed that if he used white cable on the satellite dishes, it would reflect the sunlight and last longer. That notion was proved wrong after only two years.)

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Although Belden 1694A is indeed RG6 and will take the same F connectors as most other standard RG6 varieties, its primarily designed purpose is for serial digital video up to 3G -- not for RF. That's not to say it won't work, because it does; in a pinch I have used it for L-band feeds from our satellite dishes, and it works well enough.

The thing is, 1694A is a specialized type for a particular purpose and you pay a premium for that... at the station, we pay about $326 for a thousand-foot reel. Belden 9116 is a far more common RG6 type for RF, and its attenuation specs over the relevant band are not terribly different from 1694A for distances typical within a home. But 9116 costs only $74 for the same thousand feet, and has some other features that can be handy: its copper-clad steel center conductor is far stronger than 1694A's solid copper, so it will withstand pulling and bending better. It's also lighter, so if you have a long run up a mast, or along a messenger line, that's a good thing.

Bottom line: unless you plan to run serial digital video through your house, I don't see any technical justification for spending more than four times the money for 1694A.

Oh, one other point: whatever type of cable you get, make sure it's black. Other colors aren't UV resistant, and the outer jacket will break down after sufficient exposure to sunlight. (We had a fellow who assumed that if he used white cable on the satellite dishes, it would reflect the sunlight and last longer. That notion was proved wrong after only two years.)

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Thanks for the replies and the welcome. Glad to have found this place.Don't do much of this commercially but I like to dable at home.

I have about three feet of exposed exterior cable, pokes out at the mast on the side of the house. I have a reel of black from local vendor.

I will pull in the cabling gently and observe minimum bending radius.

Having said that, DTV Engineer, do you think aside from the cost and gentle handling, that the 1694a would perform as well or better than the 9116 for my intended purpose?

All information is greatly appreciated.Thanks again for the help.
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Having said that, DTV Engineer, do you think aside from the cost and gentle handling, that the 1694a would perform as well or better than the 9116 for my intended purpose?
Oh, yeah... it should work just fine. The 1694A will have marginally better performance than 9116, but not enough to notice in this application. Mainly, the cost-to-benefit ratio is not so hot... as with buying a Maserati for stop-and-go city driving, you never really get the full benefit of what you bought.

I didn't mean to imply that 1694A is unduly delicate... you just don't want to use a comealong to pull several of them through half-inch conduit without lubricant...

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