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Old 01-19-2009, 12:49 PM   #1  
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Hello all,

First, thanks for your continued help and advice. My receiver sounds great, but I"m not sure I'm maximizing it. Particularly, I've heard people ask, "Does it say TrueHD", and mine does not. WHen playing a BD it says 'HDMI' on the receiver, 'Audessey' and has a red shape that looks to me like a Dolby sign. Can you look at ALL of my settings. I know my brother and I changed some settings around when I was figuring my original sound problem (No sound at all, turned out to be a speaker problem)and am worried that the changed settings may have screwed things up.

First, here's the pertinent settings on the Receiver (Onkyo 606).

1. Input assign
1.3 Diginal Audio Input
Speakers - Speaker type - Normal
Speaker configuration-
Subwoofer Yes
Front 150hz
Center 60 hz
Surround 60hz
Surr Back None
LPF of LFE 100 hz
Calibration
Left -8.0db
Center -3.0db
Right -4.0db
Surr Right -2.0db
Surr. Left -7.0db
Subwoofer -7.0
Audio Adjust
1. Multiplex/Mono
Multiplex Input Ch - Main
Mono Input Ch - Left + Right
2. PLIIx/Neo:6
Panoramo - Off
Dimension 0
Center Width 3
Center Image 2

3. Dolbe EX - Auto

4. Theatre-Dimensional
Listening Angle - Wide

7. Hardware Setup
5. HDMI
Output Resolution - 1080i
Zoom Mode - Full
Audio TV Out - Off
Lip Sync - Disable
x.v. Color - Disable
Control - Disable

NOW, the Blu Ray settings (Which I KNOW were changed a lot)

Video
Still Mode - Auto
Seamless Play - On
black Level Control - Darker

Audio
Dynami Range Compression - Auto
Digital Audio Output
Dolby D/Dolby D+/Dolby True HD - Bitstream
DTS/DTS-HD - Bitstream
BD- Video Secondary Audio - Off
PCM Down Conversion - On
Downmix Surround - Encoded

TV/Device Connection
TV/Aspect 16.9 Full
HDMI Connection
HDMI Video Mode - On
HDMI Resolution - Auto
24p Output - On
HDMI RGB Output Range - Standard
HDMI Audio Output - On
Viera Link - Off
Component Video Resolution - 1080i


Please advise if I should change any of these settings.

THANKS SO MUCH,

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Old 01-19-2009, 01:02 PM   #2  
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Are you certain you have selected Dolby TrueHD from the disc options menu? To get your receiver to decode Dolby TrueHD, you need these three things:

1. Use HDMI audio bitstream, selected on the player itself
2. HDMI cable connected to audio decoder with HDMI input selected capable of decoding Dolby TrueHD
3. Dolby TrueHD selected as audio on the disc itself

I don't know what player you are using and I don't own the Onkyo receiver you have but none of those other options you have gone to all of the trouble to list have any relevance to using Dolby TrueHD unless that player somehow overrides your selection of HDMI bitstream to be used for audio. I don't know the specific term within your player menu to select HDMI bitstream for audio but it should be straight forward.

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Sorry I left out some details

THE BD is the Panasonic DMP BD35. It was suggested on here as one that could decode that and the settings posted above are from that. Also, I currently have an HDMI cable goign from the TV to the reciever. Also have the BD plugged into HDMI 1 (And assigned ot the DVD) on the receiver. Please advise further.

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Sorry I left out some details

THE BD is the Panasonic DMP BD35. It was suggested on here as one that could decode that and the settings posted above are from that. Also, I currently have an HDMI cable goign from the TV to the reciever. Also have the BD plugged into HDMI 1 (And assigned ot the DVD) on the receiver. Please advise further.

Thanks,

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hdtvjunkie has BD35 and Onkyo 806 (which is in same family as 606 - only more power and some additional features). Maybe he can comment as I know his is functioning properly with the receiver stating DDTrue HD and DTS-MA.
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I have the BD35 and the Onkyo 606. I have the BD35 setup to PCM out the oudio stream. The display on the Onkyo says HDMI and multi-channel instead of DTS-HD MA if I had set up the BD35 for bitstream.
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He probably should check to see if his hdmi cable is 1.3v. I was glancing at his settings and the only setting I would change would be on the bd player under Dynamic Audio, I would set it to off instead of Auto. From what I could tell by his settings his receiver should say DTSMA or DD True HD with the settings he has now. More than likely he needs a new hdmi cable. Also like Stew stated he could set his BD-35 to PCM so it will do the decoding itself. Then his receiver should say Multi C on the display. Also like someone else stated, when the movie starts hit the audio button on the remote to double check that you have selected DDTrue HD. Also turn off the PCM downconversion in the BD player. That should fix your problem. One other thing you might wanna change is in the receiver on your hdmi input, I have mine set to passthrough. That way it passes the signal straight through the receiver. My tv is a 1080p tv and so is the player. You can play with that setting to see what looks best to you.

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Hi all...

Before I start changing things let me ask something else (Stupid probably). I was told Bitstream was better than PCM....I'm not sure better is the right term. HDJunkie...is yours set to Bitstream or PCM with these settings?

Is it possible my display on the actual receiver doesn't say what yours does because while hooking in the wires I hit a button on the receiver itself?

Also, my HDMI cable is the one that Comcast uses...I'm assuming it's high quality, but I'm not sure how to check if it's 1.3a. So, let me know if I should definetily change to PCM and then I'll make the changes you suggested. Thanks,

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I'm pretty sure if you turn the PCM downconversion to off that will fix your problem. I just went back and double checked my settings again. All of our settings are the same in the BD Player except for Dynamic Audio, Mine is set to OFF, and the PCM Downconversion in mine is set to OFF.
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Hi all...

Before I start changing things let me ask something else (Stupid probably). I was told Bitstream was better than PCM....I'm not sure better is the right term. HDJunkie...is yours set to Bitstream or PCM with these settings?

Is it possible my display on the actual receiver doesn't say what yours does because while hooking in the wires I hit a button on the receiver itself?

Also, my HDMI cable is the one that Comcast uses...I'm assuming it's high quality, but I'm not sure how to check if it's 1.3a. So, let me know if I should definetily change to PCM and then I'll make the changes you suggested. Thanks,

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No if you change your settings like I mentioned about and it doesn't change the display then I'd look to get a new hdmi cable. Yes your receiver will show DTSMA and Dolby True HD. I think PCM and Bitstream are just personal taste settings. If you change the settings in your BD player to what I said and it doesn't work, then I would go back into the settings and change the settings from Bitstream to PCM. You will get True HD and DTSMA but the receiver will just state Multi C.
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If you do end up needing a new HDMI cable you can order them from www.monoprice.com for about 5 to 6 bucks depending on what length you want. The hdmi cables will say something like version 1.3a on there site. They are good cables. I ordered 3 and all work just fine.
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One other thing, I had a problem with mine. It quit saying DTSMA. I had a handshake issue. I had to unplug the power to the BD-35 and disconnect the hdmi cable from the back of the player. I left it unplugged for about 10 minutes then plugged the power back in and then the hdmi cable. If you set your settings like I stated and it still doesn't say DTSMA or DDTrue HD, I would say get a new hdmi cable. I too wanted to see my receiver light up with DTSMA and Dolby TrueHD. The difference between PCM and Bitstream is when set to PCM the player decodes the audio and when set to Bitstream the receiver does the decoding. I think that is how it works.
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Okay...

I changed Dynamic Range Compression from Auto to off (You said Dynamic Audio, i'm guessing that's th setting you meant. Please advise). I also switched PCM Down Conversion to off.

Also, I switched BOTH Dolby D/Dolby D+/Dolby True HD, and DTS/DTS-HD to PCM (Was I supposed to change both?)

Also, I never knew, but I did hit the audio button on the BD35 and did switch it to True HD...it was not set to that.

On the receiver it now says PCM Multi Ch HDMI Audessey

Does that mean I'm ready? It does not say True HD or anything of the sort.

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Okay...

I changed Dynamic Range Compression from Auto to off (You said Dynamic Audio, i'm guessing that's th setting you meant. Please advise). I also switched PCM Down Conversion to off.

Also, I switched BOTH Dolby D/Dolby D+/Dolby True HD, and DTS/DTS-HD to PCM (Was I supposed to change both?)

Also, I never knew, but I did hit the audio button on the BD35 and did switch it to True HD...it was not set to that.

On the receiver it now says PCM Multi Ch HDMI Audessey

Does that mean I'm ready? It does not say True HD or anything of the sort.

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That's it! You now have HD audio!
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Even though it doesn't say DTSMA and Dolby TrueHD like HDJunkie said?
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That's it! You now have HD audio!
But I don't get it stew. Junk has the BD35 and Onkyo 806 and the way he has his setup (bitstream), his receiver clearly says either:
DTS-MA or DD True HD (not multichannel or whatever) Why would yours and or pycroft be different? I understand both ways are acceptable - but who wouldn't prefer to have the exact codec listed?
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