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Old 12-04-2008, 10:04 PM   #1  
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Looking at getting a new receiver. I've been looking hard at the Onkyo reveivers. They sure seem to have a lot going for them. Example is the 606. It has 90W per channel. Price is $319 at Amazon. But - I've since read couple reviews that state that the actual 90W is only x 2 channels. Not equal power to all channels. Is this correct??

Denon, on the other hand for the most part has equal power to all channels driven. Seems like a huge plus to me. I currently own an older Denon and it too has equal power. I've never had a surround receiver without this feature.

Bottom line - Do the Onkyo's drop way off in volume/power when in surround modes? I think if the Onkyo doesn't jam in surround like my current Denon - I'll be dissapointed.

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I've never had a problem with any of mine dropping in power as you say and for that matter my next door neighbor replaced his Denon with an Onkyo after he heard mine...To each his or her own.
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I've never had a problem with any of mine dropping in power as you say and for that matter my next door neighbor replaced his Denon with an Onkyo after he heard mine...To each his or her own.
For me is a tough decision as I can't demo the Onkyo and Denon together. I will be buying online as much cheaper that way.

What you think L2W? Let's just say I have $500 to spend. I can get the 706 for $499 or the 606 for $319. I understand the savings well enough....but wonder how much better the 706 is? I see it is THX certified while the 606 isn't. Do I care about that? No clue. 706 has 100W/c while the 606 has 90W/c. How much difference does 10W/c make? Again, I have no clue. I like it loud and I like to be able to play loud with minimal distortion.
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For me is a tough decision as I can't demo the Onkyo and Denon together. I will be buying online as much cheaper that way.

What you think L2W? Let's just say I have $500 to spend. I can get the 706 for $499 or the 606 for $319. I understand the savings well enough....but wonder how much better the 706 is? I see it is THX certified while the 606 isn't. Do I care about that? No clue. 706 has 100W/c while the 606 has 90W/c. How much difference does 10W/c make? Again, I have no clue. I like it loud and I like to be able to play loud with minimal distortion.
I say go for the 706 it does have more power and it IS noticeable. That's why I bought a 705 (previous series) about 6 months ago and it rocks/kicks butt/makes my neighbors cringe.
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I say go for the 706 it does have more power and it IS noticeable. That's why I bought a 705 (previous series) about 6 months ago and it rocks/kicks butt/makes my neighbors cringe.
Hah. Cool. I may just do that. I'm getting the big itch. Tonight my wife told me she WANTED me to get a new receiver. By God, when the wife says those things...you listen!!!
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Hah. Cool. I may just do that. I'm getting the big itch. Tonight my wife told me she WANTED me to get a new receiver. By God, when the wife says those things...you listen!!!
Absolutely, purchase tomorrow so the wife will be pleased
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Looking at getting a new receiver. I've been looking hard at the Onkyo reveivers. They sure seem to have a lot going for them. Example is the 606. It has 90W per channel. Price is $319 at Amazon. But - I've since read couple reviews that state that the actual 90W is only x 2 channels. Not equal power to all channels. Is this correct??

Denon, on the other hand for the most part has equal power to all channels driven. Seems like a huge plus to me. I currently own an older Denon and it too has equal power. I've never had a surround receiver without this feature.

Bottom line - Do the Onkyo's drop way off in volume/power when in surround modes? I think if the Onkyo doesn't jam in surround like my current Denon - I'll be dissapointed.

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also add in the sony 7.1 str-dg820(has 4 hdmi outs) its a great receiver for a good price $399 at bestbuy last time i checked,it decodes all the new audio formats.I'd have to say its the best sony receiver in that price range.i've had an onkyo and its just as good if not better than my onkyo 604(which is in living room)
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also add in the sony 7.1 str-dg820(has 4 hdmi outs) its a great receiver for a good price $399 at bestbuy last time i checked,it decodes all the new audio formats.I'd have to say its the best sony receiver in that price range.i've had an onkyo and its just as good if not better than my onkyo 604(which is in living room)
Sony does not make good, long lasting, trouble free, properly functioning receivers. Almost any other brand is better.
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IMO THE Denon has a "warmer sound ", the Onkyo sound is more Digital (cold sounding), it's hard to accurately explain that, except that when doing a Side by Side the Denon has a richer (fuller) sound, again this is my own personal impression. If possible do a Side by Side and provide your own Media (DVD or CD) something your already familar with and make sure the sales person doesn't "Color" up the audition by boosting tonal settings, also try to set both Recievers in a neutral play mode,and on speaker that are as close as possible to your existing system, so as not to add a false impression, and not adding Bass or Treble coloring so you can make an accurate evaluation of the units your listening to. IMO!
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[QUOTE=gosmosis;757116]a lot going for them. . It has 90W per channel. Price is $319 at Amazon. But - I've since read couple reviews that state that the actual 90W is only x 2 channels. Not equal power to all channels. Is this correct??


I have one And it says 90w x7 AND YOU CAN BI-AMP IT. (running 5.1)
By doing that it would have to be 90w x 7


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IMO THE Denon has a "warmer sound ", the Onkyo sound is more Digital (cold sounding), it's hard to accurately explain that, except that when doing a Side by Side the Denon has a richer (fuller) sound, again this is my own personal impression. If possible do a Side by Side and provide your own Media (DVD or CD) something your already familar with and make sure the sales person doesn't "Color" up the audition by boosting tonal settings, also try to set both Recievers in a neutral play mode,and on speaker that are as close as possible to your existing system, so as not to add a false impression, and not adding Bass or Treble coloring so you can make an accurate evaluation of the units your listening to. IMO!
I have heard the warm vs. cold sound argument before. That really depends on the speakers you are using.
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I have heard the warm vs. cold sound argument before. That really depends on the speakers you are using.
When I was checking out the Mirage speaker system I went to the Magnolia store ( Bestbuy sub/store) and played a Concert DVD, for I was actually auditioning for sound quality and not PQ, but wanted to hear tracks from this DVD which I was familiar with and there was definitely a difference and I was allowed to setup both receivers for play sequences both rec. were setup basically in the "flat" neutral positions. the Onkyo which was better in features for $$ than an equivalently priced Denon but certainly not in its sound reproduction IMO and as agreed by the salesman ( but that don't mean shit, because they will agree with you on anything just to sell product).
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OK - a pretty damn dumb question now. When a receiver is talking about HDMI inputs vs outputs. What gives? How many of either do I need?

I have my LCD TV via HDMI
blu-ray player via HDMI
HD cable via HDMI.

Pasted here is HDMI comment about a certain receiver:
2 HDMI v1.3a digital video inputs and 1 HDMI monitor output

Why would I need more than 2 inputs?? Yeah, yeah, I'd rather have 3 and 1, but what the hell?
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OK - a pretty damn dumb question now. When a receiver is talking about HDMI inputs vs outputs. What gives? How many of either do I need?

I have my LCD TV via HDMI
blu-ray player via HDMI
HD cable via HDMI.

Pasted here is HDMI comment about a certain receiver:
2 HDMI v1.3a digital video inputs and 1 HDMI monitor output

Why would I need more than 2 inputs?? Yeah, yeah, I'd rather have 3 and 1, but what the hell?
IMO, the more HDMI inputs, the better. My Denon 4806 has only 3 HDMI inputs... so I have to juggle things sometimes.
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OK - a pretty damn dumb question now. When a receiver is talking about HDMI inputs vs outputs. What gives? How many of either do I need?

I have my LCD TV via HDMI
blu-ray player via HDMI
HD cable via HDMI.

Pasted here is HDMI comment about a certain receiver:
2 HDMI v1.3a digital video inputs and 1 HDMI monitor output

Why would I need more than 2 inputs?? Yeah, yeah, I'd rather have 3 and 1, but what the hell?
3 HDMI 1.3 inputs for all of your devices (Blu-ray player, sat. or cable box, gaming machines, etc.) I believe to be minimum. You really only need 1 output to your TV.

BTW The Onkyo TX-SR706 has HDMI V1.3a repeater (4 in/1 out, 1080p compatible)
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