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Old 12-05-2008, 01:18 PM   #16  
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3 HDMI 1.3 inputs for all of your devices (Blu-ray player, sat. or cable box, gaming machines, etc.) I believe to be minimum. You really only need 1 output to your TV.

BTW The Onkyo TX-SR706 has HDMI V1.3a repeater (4 in/1 out, 1080p compatible)
I only have cable box and blu-ray. I will never have a gaming outfit.
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To continue this debate with myself....

How much of an issue is..
A)Are there blu-ray movies that are DTS-Master, but not True-HD?
B) I have a sony S350 that decodes True-HD, but not DTS-Master....so if I get a receiver WITHOUT internal decoders....will I really care??

I'm quickly narrowing down receiver choices to
1. Onkyo 706 All the bells and whistles. Built in decoders for all. 100W/c but not 100W x 7 channels. Much less in surround modes.
2. Denon AVR-988 No doubt a monster receiver. But - no TrueHD or DTS master decoders at all. 110W/c x 7 channels (equal power per channel)

Price is only $20 difference between the two. My heart wants to buy the Denon - but my curiosity about all the bells and whistles of the Onkyo is also intriguing me.

More comments?? This is why I hate buying online......but the prices are unbeatable.
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To continue this debate with myself....

How much of an issue is..
A)Are there blu-ray movies that are DTS-Master, but not True-HD?
B) I have a sony S350 that decodes True-HD, but not DTS-Master....so if I get a receiver WITHOUT internal decoders....will I really care?? Yes you will, maybe not today but in the future.

I'm quickly narrowing down receiver choices to
1. Onkyo 706 All the bells and whistles. Built in decoders for all. 100W/c but not 100W x 7 channels. Much less in surround modes.Not MUCH less in surround modes, hardly noticeable. Besides the surround speakers don't need lots of power and the power it does deliver will blow your windows out. I haven't gotten mine to clip yet.
2. Denon AVR-988 No doubt a monster receiver. But - no TrueHD or DTS master decoders at all. 110W/c x 7 channels (equal power per channel)

Price is only $20 difference between the two. My heart wants to buy the Denon - but my curiosity about all the bells and whistles of the Onkyo is also intriguing me.

More comments?? This is why I hate buying online......but the prices are unbeatable.
I like Denon, I like Onkyo, I also like Harman Kardon, Yamaha, Pioneer and a few others but as of late have chosen Onkyo because of the options, rugged build quality, excellent performance and great sound. It's just too bad that Denon and the others don't make anything comparable for the price because they could. Is it greed? I don't know but am happy with what Onkyo delivers for the price, as most if not all other owners will agree.

No matter which you choose you will have a fine receiver.
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I like Denon, I like Onkyo, I also like Harman Kardon, Yamaha, Pioneer and a few others but as of late have chosen Onkyo because of the options, rugged build quality, excellent performance and great sound. It's just too bad that Denon and the others don't make anything comparable for the price because they could. Is it greed? I don't know but am happy with what Onkyo delivers for the price, as most if not all other owners will agree.

No matter which you choose you will have a fine receiver.
I am confident that which ever one I get I will have one hell of a unit. I mean - I have narrowed it down to these two. YOu know, it is still $500, so I want to make sure I am absolutely happy with this purchase.

And yes, I should not have said the Onkyo has much less sound in surround mode. I was only repeating some of the reviews I read...certainly doesn't make it true.
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I am confident that which ever one I get I will have one hell of a unit. I mean - I have narrowed it down to these two. YOu know, it is still $500, so I want to make sure I am absolutely happy with this purchase.

And yes, I should not have said the Onkyo has much less sound in surround mode. I was only repeating some of the reviews I read...certainly doesn't make it true.
If you came over and listened to mine, you would buy one in a heartbeat as my neighbor did (replacing his Denon of less than 6 mos. old).
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If you came over and listened to mine, you would buy one in a heartbeat as my neighbor did (replacing his Denon of less than 6 mos. old).
I am tempted to "upgrade" to a Onkyo 70x or 80x. I like my big Denon but it has only 3 HDMI inputs, doesn't decode DTS-MA but... it's just hard to justify doing it because I can still use component outs for my DirecTV HD box and the PS3.
I would like to know if I would hear any difference between letting my BD35 sending PCM vs bitstreaming and having the receiver decode.
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I am tempted to "upgrade" to a Onkyo 70x or 80x. I like my big Denon but it has only 3 HDMI inputs, doesn't decode DTS-MA but... it's just hard to justify doing it because I can still use component outs for my DirecTV HD box and the PS3.
I would like to know if I would hear any difference between letting my BD35 sending PCM vs bitstreaming and having the receiver decode.
Which denon you have stew?
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Which denon you have stew?
Link: It's the Denon AVR-4806CI.

It's a sweeeeet receiver but came out before all the new encodes. I didn't pay MSRP for it either.
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Link: It's the Denon AVR-4806CI.

It's a sweeeeet receiver but came out before all the new encodes. I didn't pay MSRP for it either.
Well, let me ask you this then. The Denon I'm considering is http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...X0DER&v=glance
I think this receiver must be a killer for that price - BUT!! Drawbacks are:
1. If I'm reading it right - this thing does not decode internally the 2 new audio codecs (True HD and DTS-Master) Please confirm to me if you read it that way.
2. Only has 2 HDMI for audio and 1 HDMI for video. For me - I don't know that this is a problem at all cause I only have HD cable box and blu-ray player. What the hell else could I possibly hook up to it? No - not gaming!
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Well, let me ask you this then. The Denon I'm considering is http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...X0DER&v=glance
I think this receiver must be a killer for that price - BUT!! Drawbacks are:
1. If I'm reading it right - this thing does not decode internally the 2 new audio codecs (True HD and DTS-Master) Please confirm to me if you read it that way.
2. Only has 2 HDMI for audio and 1 HDMI for video. For me - I don't know that this is a problem at all cause I only have HD cable box and blu-ray player. What the hell else could I possibly hook up to it? No - not gaming!
I think I would want a receiver that decodes ALL the latest audio formats available today if I was buying one.

I think the Onkyo would be a better deal for you. I have had Onkyo in the past and they are very good!!! That is why I am considering a change back to Onkyo myself
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Yeah, I just looked up your receiver Stew - what a monster. 140W/c. That's awesome. But as long as the receiver has HDMI and your blu-ray has internal decoders....don't you have it whipped??
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Yeah, I just looked up your receiver Stew - what a monster. 140W/c. That's awesome. But as long as the receiver has HDMI and your blu-ray has internal decoders....don't you have it whipped??
Yeah, I do. I have been tossing around the idea of setting up my bedroom with surround system, so I might watch for a good deal on one of the Onkyo's.. like the 606
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I am tempted to "upgrade" to a Onkyo 70x or 80x. I like my big Denon but it has only 3 HDMI inputs, doesn't decode DTS-MA but... it's just hard to justify doing it because I can still use component outs for my DirecTV HD box and the PS3.
I would like to know if I would hear any difference between letting my BD35 sending PCM vs bitstreaming and having the receiver decode.
I believe the receiver to do a bit better job with the decoding, after all that is what it is designed to do and I believe it to sound better. The 606 is a fine receiver but the 706 adds a noticeable amount of punch (power).
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Yeah, I do. I have been tossing around the idea of setting up my bedroom with surround system, so I might watch for a good deal on one of the Onkyo's.. like the 606
stew i picked up the 606 at accessories4less.com
for 289.00+shipping.
its a refurb,but no issues so far.
to the poster above i have the sony s350 bd player and it does
send dts hd master audio via hdmi, on my receiver the dts hd master audio light comes on.
whew man what a sound!
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I believe the receiver to do a bit better job with the decoding, after all that is what it is designed to do and I believe it to sound better. The 606 is a fine receiver but the 706 adds a noticeable amount of punch (power).
I just pulled the plug. I ordered the Onkyo 806 on Amazon.
Should be here on Tuesday.
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