My HD-Ready TV has no HDMI hookup . . .

MadnNatsmom · 03-27-2005, 07:03 PM

And, my DH just bought a HD DVD player with HDMI input (don't ask).

Is there any way I can get this DVD player hooked up to my TV? If I got a STB?

Thank you in advance.

RSawdey · 03-27-2005, 07:47 PM

Make & model numbers of both devices please... has nothing to do with a STB (set top box).

MadnNatsmom · 03-27-2005, 11:12 PM

Oh! Thank you for the reply:

The HD Ready TV monitor is: Toshiba 36HF12

The HD DVD Player is: Panasonic S97.

borromini · 03-28-2005, 05:20 PM

There's no way you're going to be able to take advantage of the upscaling 1080/720 HD feature of the Panasonic DVD player if you don't have an HDMI or DVI connection at the TV. You'll be limited to component video and s-video only and those connections will limit the Panasonic player's output to a standard DVD 480 resolution. If you can return the Panasonic, you may want to look at Zenith or Momitsu or similar DVD players that actually allow the upconverted signal to be sent via component video. Otherwise, you may be very happy with the picture quality you get from a component video connection to your Panasonic. It just won't be at HD resolution. Many folks have stated that they don't notice the improvement on a 36" screen anyway. Good luck!

RSawdey · 03-28-2005, 05:51 PM

Your TV only has Component inputs for HD signals. Upconverting players only output HD res's over their DVI or HDMI connection. Output over Component is 480p. You might as well have a cheaper progressive scan player... and save your money for a widescreen set that follows the ATSC standard.

MadnNatsmom · 03-28-2005, 09:38 PM

Thank you for your replies, gentlemen. I guess I'll try to sell it on ebay.

Borromini - Can you tell me why a 36" screen wouldn't offer much improvement? Too small? How much bigger do I need to go?

borromini · 03-28-2005, 09:45 PM

Folks that have seen what can be termed as a significant improvement usually were looking at a 54" or larger screen. I use a front LCD projector and with a 102" image the jump from a standard 480 DVD image to 720 or 1080 is very significant. 36" is just going to be marginal improvement if any at all. I have a 36" Sony as my backup and the upconverting player makes no difference in image compared to a progressive-scan player.

MadnNatsmom · 03-29-2005, 12:45 AM

Thank you, borromini.

RSawdey · 03-29-2005, 01:21 PM

I think there's a psychological thing about the 'WOW' factor... the new widescreen needs to be at least the same height as the old 4:3... then HD will 'open out bigger' with it's extra detail... a 44" widescreen shows a 4:3 image the same size as a 36" narrow set... and HD as 1/3 wider. Of course, bigger = bigger WOW!

Don't know the source, but it's been said you need at least a 40" set to see all the detail of an HDTV image...

RufusRyker · 04-05-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Don't know the source, but it's been said you need at least a 40" set to see all the detail of an HDTV image...

Doesn't it depend on how close one sits to the screen? If you sit 10 inches away from a 15" screen, what details are you missing compared to sitting 10 feet away from a 40" screen?

borromini · 04-05-2005, 10:25 PM

True, distance does matter a great deal. Owners of high resolution PC monitors are used to sitting up close and can appreciate the details in an HD video. However, HDTVs aren't normally viewed that close.

03-27-2005, 07:03 PM	#1
MadnNatsmom What is HD? Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4	My HD-Ready TV has no HDMI hookup . . . And, my DH just bought a HD DVD player with HDMI input (don't ask). Is there any way I can get this DVD player hooked up to my TV? If I got a STB? Thank you in advance.

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03-27-2005, 07:47 PM	#2
RSawdey Mr. Wizard Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ferndale, Michigan Age: 71 Posts: 5,981	Make & model numbers of both devices please... has nothing to do with a STB (set top box).

03-27-2005, 11:12 PM	#3
MadnNatsmom What is HD? Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4	Oh! Thank you for the reply: The HD Ready TV monitor is: Toshiba 36HF12 The HD DVD Player is: Panasonic S97.

03-28-2005, 05:20 PM	#4
borromini HT Frontiersman Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 10,309	There's no way you're going to be able to take advantage of the upscaling 1080/720 HD feature of the Panasonic DVD player if you don't have an HDMI or DVI connection at the TV. You'll be limited to component video and s-video only and those connections will limit the Panasonic player's output to a standard DVD 480 resolution. If you can return the Panasonic, you may want to look at Zenith or Momitsu or similar DVD players that actually allow the upconverted signal to be sent via component video. Otherwise, you may be very happy with the picture quality you get from a component video connection to your Panasonic. It just won't be at HD resolution. Many folks have stated that they don't notice the improvement on a 36" screen anyway. Good luck!

03-28-2005, 05:51 PM	#5
RSawdey Mr. Wizard Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ferndale, Michigan Age: 71 Posts: 5,981	Your TV only has Component inputs for HD signals. Upconverting players only output HD res's over their DVI or HDMI connection. Output over Component is 480p. You might as well have a cheaper progressive scan player... and save your money for a widescreen set that follows the ATSC standard.

03-28-2005, 09:38 PM	#6
MadnNatsmom What is HD? Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4	Thank you for your replies, gentlemen. I guess I'll try to sell it on ebay. Borromini - Can you tell me why a 36" screen wouldn't offer much improvement? Too small? How much bigger do I need to go?

03-28-2005, 09:45 PM	#7
borromini HT Frontiersman Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 10,309	Folks that have seen what can be termed as a significant improvement usually were looking at a 54" or larger screen. I use a front LCD projector and with a 102" image the jump from a standard 480 DVD image to 720 or 1080 is very significant. 36" is just going to be marginal improvement if any at all. I have a 36" Sony as my backup and the upconverting player makes no difference in image compared to a progressive-scan player.

03-29-2005, 12:45 AM	#8
MadnNatsmom What is HD? Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4	Thank you, borromini.

03-29-2005, 01:21 PM	#9
RSawdey Mr. Wizard Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ferndale, Michigan Age: 71 Posts: 5,981	I think there's a psychological thing about the 'WOW' factor... the new widescreen needs to be at least the same height as the old 4:3... then HD will 'open out bigger' with it's extra detail... a 44" widescreen shows a 4:3 image the same size as a 36" narrow set... and HD as 1/3 wider. Of course, bigger = bigger WOW! Don't know the source, but it's been said you need at least a 40" set to see all the detail of an HDTV image...

04-05-2005, 10:25 PM	#11
borromini HT Frontiersman Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 10,309	True, distance does matter a great deal. Owners of high resolution PC monitors are used to sitting up close and can appreciate the details in an HD video. However, HDTVs aren't normally viewed that close.