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View Poll Results: HDCP, FOR or AGAINST
I am against HDCP because it reduces my rights 32 80.00%
I am for HDCP because it assures me the very best HD. 8 20.00%
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Old 06-13-2005, 11:01 PM   #31  
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Encrypting the Component output would be useless, since no inputs could decrypt it. The plan is to downrez the Component outputs to 480p when using HDCP.

Remember 720p is 60 Hz, you need to digitize 180 MB/sec of RGB values, then compress with MPEG2 @ high level in real time. Which is why they cost $3500. Many would love to see you decimate the price...
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Old 06-13-2005, 11:24 PM   #32  
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Well.... it appears HD Component output will be around for sometime to come.
Perhaps there is a " provision in the FCC rule that a broadcaster, intending to make the flag effective, may file a 30 day advanced notice to the FCC of its intention to downrez Component to 480i if an HDCP equipped STB transmits a flagged program via Component instead of a compliant connection (DVI or HDMI) ".... however, how many and how soon might this be implemented ? I believe not too quickly...as it appears many HDTV users currently utilize Component Video Connections.

I am now diligently working on a Component...MPEG-2 HD encoder / playback box...with 1394 to PC/MAC connection. Pricing should be between $299-$399. The HD codec chip can handle 720p real-time encoding, with up-scaling to 1080i/p for playback / decoding.

Any suggestions for feature sets are welcome... as product specs are currently underway and flexible.
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Old 06-14-2005, 12:10 PM   #33  
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i dont support internet piracy, but i do want waht i pay for, and if that means i want to make a recording copy of it, Thats what im going to do, they have no right to limit me from doing that.. Even if they did, they will always have a bypass to get around their little protections.. imo theyre trying to control too much where they have no rights to.. Sure i want them to get all the money they deserve, but if they think theyre going to limit me on somthing im paying for, They have another thing coming.
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:32 PM   #34  
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One legit use of DVD backups is for parents with little kids that want to play 'Little Mermaid' for the 300th time (with peanut butter on their hands). Give backup to kids, keep master on a high shelf. Disney would LIKE to charge you every time they play it!
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Old 06-14-2005, 08:25 PM   #35  
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One legit use of DVD backups is for parents with little kids that want to play 'Little Mermaid' for the 300th time (with peanut butter on their hands). Give backup to kids, keep master on a high shelf. Disney would LIKE to charge you every time they play it!
Exactly, The exact statement rite there... If i had to pay for somthing to bypass the so called "protection" i would, because i know im using it for LEGIT purposes for my own collection.. I will never pay them for every time i want to watch somthing i paid for to begin with... Theres many out there that agree.. Hence the reason people will bypass it to make their own personal copies.. Now for piracy and making copies to distribute im strongly against it, but if im paying for somthing, You have no right to control it
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:17 AM   #36  
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Everyone who is normal dont really care about the copy protection. Everyone else is upset because they cant make High Def copies of movies ( illegal exept for personal use ). If you want to record a High Def movie, get an HD DVR STB. lol
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:31 AM   #37  
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In my case I have no intention of copying..yet hdcp keeps me from using HDMI to view HD content...

Its interfering with my viewing of HD content.
This violates my contract to pay for hd content or services.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:24 PM   #38  
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In my case I have a DVR from COX.

still hdcp is interfering with just plain viewing of hd content.

But if i can gain hd viewing without hdmi then its likely to happen.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:23 PM   #40  
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agreed...

The dvd/theatre needed to be hdcp compliant.

But this will likely keep me from buying from sears in the future and I may still try to see if I can disable HDCP in TV & DVR.

Thougth I know its possible on dvr, I doubt it can be disabled in the tv.

(possible on dvr because I already know the method via either this or another hd forum).
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High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) is a form of Digital Rights Management (DRM) developed by Intel Corporation to control digital audio and video content as it travels across Digital Visual Interface (DVI) or High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) connections. The specification is proprietary, and creating an implementation of HDCP requires a license.

HDCP is licensed by Digital Content Protection, a subsidiary of Intel. In addition to paying fees, licensees agree to limit the capabilities of their products. For example, high-definition digital video content must be restricted to DVD quality on non-HDCP compliant video outputs when requested by the source. DVD-Audio content is restricted to DAT quality on non-HDCP digital audio outputs (analog audio outputs have no quality limits). Licensees cannot allow their devices to make copies of content, and must design their products in ways that "effectively frustrate attempts to defeat the content protection requirements.

HDMI/HDCP good for greedy Hollywood execs, bad for the populous.
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