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Old 02-13-2013, 03:32 PM   #1  
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Default Box Home Theater or Piece Meal High End?

Here is a quick story and let me know what you think.

So I replaced my Panasonic rear projection I purchased in 2005. Great set and it still in good working order. I decided to replace it after seeing some good deals out there in the last couple weeks. This last Monday I purchased a Panasonic 60" Plasma TC-60U50. I love the TV. Itís not 3D and itís not smart. But the picture looks incredible to me and the size is awesome. For $799 I couldnít pass it up. I purchase an Onkyo theater in a box AVX-290 I believe. It was ok... just purchased it on Monday with the TV and it appeared right out of the box to have issues getting audio/video through the receiver to the TV (hdmi connections only). I havenít done any trouble shooting on the problem mostly because itís intermittent.

On Tuesday I went with a friend to a local AV shop that only does TVís and speakers. I wasnít happy with the audio system I just purchased and was planning on taking it back. I started talking with the sales guy, who seemed to be fairly educated with the equipment (makes sense). I have a working knowledge but am no expert.

He made a suggestion to me that I liked, which was an alternative to the Home Theater in a Box. He suggested taking the money I spent on the HTB and buying a decent amp and a good center channel. Say a Yamaha receiver and a Definitive Tech (Procen1000) center. If I started with that, since I'm on a budget, I could add speakers later and end up with a much better system that had more longevity than the HTB, which makes sense to me.

I would think doing a front left and a front right with the receiver would sound better. Then later I could add a center, then a sub, then the rear right and rear left channels. Any advice...

He really pushed the Definitive speakers and his Demo of them they sounded awesome, much better than my HTB. Are they a good choice? I would much rather spread the cost over time and end up with a kick ass system. I'm only interested in movies, not music.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:41 PM   #2  
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Here is a quick story and let me know what you think.

So I replaced my Panasonic rear projection I purchased in 2005. Great set and it still in good working order. I decided to replace it after seeing some good deals out there in the last couple weeks. This last Monday I purchased a Panasonic 60" Plasma TC-60U50. I love the TV. It’s not 3D and it’s not smart. But the picture looks incredible to me and the size is awesome. For $799 I couldn’t pass it up. I purchase an Onkyo theater in a box AVX-290 I believe. It was ok... just purchased it on Monday with the TV and it appeared right out of the box to have issues getting audio/video through the receiver to the TV (hdmi connections only). I haven’t done any trouble shooting on the problem mostly because it’s intermittent.

On Tuesday I went with a friend to a local AV shop that only does TV’s and speakers. I wasn’t happy with the audio system I just purchased and was planning on taking it back. I started talking with the sales guy, who seemed to be fairly educated with the equipment (makes sense). I have a working knowledge but am no expert.

He made a suggestion to me that I liked, which was an alternative to the Home Theater in a Box. He suggested taking the money I spent on the HTB and buying a decent amp and a good center channel. Say a Yamaha receiver and a Definitive Tech (Procen1000) center. If I started with that, since I'm on a budget, I could add speakers later and end up with a much better system that had more longevity than the HTB, which makes sense to me.

I would think doing a front left and a front right with the receiver would sound better. Then later I could add a center, then a sub, then the rear right and rear left channels. Any advice...

He really pushed the Definitive speakers and his Demo of them they sounded awesome, much better than my HTB. Are they a good choice? I would much rather spread the cost over time and end up with a kick ass system. I'm only interested in movies, not music.

Any advice would be appreciated.
He obviously gets commisions on sales. You are correct in thinking the right and left should be bought 1st! What the heck would you do with just a center?
After that, I wouldn't trust him. Yamaha is good stuff, as in def tech.
But check a bit more, don't rush into anything. Check whats up at acc4less.
Onkyo/maratnz/Yammys/all there cheap. Yes it will kick the HTIB off the block! My son bought it and ended up replacing it immeditaly.
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I've heard other people reference Accessories4less.com. Is this place reputable? Why are things so discounted... are they refurbished?
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Yes, they are reputable and, yes, they sell refurbs. The company gets a lot of love on this forum, although I have never bought from them personally.

Congrats on the TV. Looking at one of those myself. You are correct that it's better to start with L/R and then add the center and a sub, followed by the surrounds at the end. Def Tech makes fine speakers. I have Mythos line across the front and they sound great.
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It sounds like Definitive Tech is good. The sales guy was showing me these satellites. Not sure what model they were but they looked like these.

http://www.definitivetech.com/products/procinema-1000

There under Def Tech section of home theater speakers. They call them shelf speakers but I’d like to mount them on the wall just above my TV. Any thoughts?

Has anyone use parts-express? any good?

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Old 02-14-2013, 10:36 AM   #6  
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It sounds like Definitive Tech is good. The sales guy was showing me these satellites. Not sure what model they were but they looked like these.

http://www.definitivetech.com/products/procinema-1000

There under Def Tech section of home theater speakers. They call them shelf speakers but Iíd like to mount them on the wall just above my TV. Any thoughts?

Has anyone use parts-express? any good?
Def-tech is good stuff. As far as acc 4less, Re-furb stuff is good! Why? It's been either returned as non working, or failed factory inspections.
The unit is then sent back, and gone over under a magnifying glass.
Then re-packed and sold at about half price.To me, it's great deal.The factory breaks even for materials and labor, and you get a top notch avr, or other equipment.
Speakers come 2 ways, bookshelf and floor. Floor units are usually full range, and bookshelfs are not, and requre a subwoofer-the term is 5.1 or 7.1. If you get a 7.1 avr, you do not need to start at 7.1. You can start 5.1 and work up to 7.1 after
Bookshelfs are that, you can get wall mountable speakers also, or bracketts. OR in wall, if you own. You can always add a sub to full range but it would be redundent.
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That def-tech system you posted is quite good those and a nice A4L receiver and you'll be good to go.
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I want to go with Yamaha. I'm trying to choose between a RXV-473 ($350 or $299 on amazon) and the RXV-673 ($499). I really dont see myself doing 7.1 audio. The sales guy said the 673 has a better amp. I'm not really sure if its worth the extra $150.
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It sounds like Definitive Tech is good. The sales guy was showing me these satellites. Not sure what model they were but they looked like these.

http://www.definitivetech.com/products/procinema-1000

There under Def Tech section of home theater speakers. They call them shelf speakers but Iíd like to mount them on the wall just above my TV. Any thoughts?

Has anyone use parts-express? any good?
Deftech is really good stuff, a world better than the HTIB you got. The Procinema 1000 is an excellent choice. You can mount them anywhere you like, but use good mounts, these speakers are not light. Monoprice mounts will NOT work.

I use these for my rears and they are great: http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Tec.../dp/B00170KRFU
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I also think the 473 would be fine. The 673 adds 7.1 and an extra 10 watts per channel but you won't really notice the difference.
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on a 5.1 reciever like that, if later I wanted to add a second sub, how would I do it?
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on a 5.1 reciever like that, if later I wanted to add a second sub, how would I do it?
you could get a Y connector but if your contemplating that, then you should look for a 7.2 AVR now
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surround sound in a box. well it will get you by until you can upgrade. if you could get at least a few good components in the deal then you could used those item in your upgrade.
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Buy a quality receiver like this: http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

Then check into a good set of frt speakers def tech or klipsch then get a matching center channel.
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