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Old 11-30-2010, 03:16 PM   #1  
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Default A/V Receiver to handle 3D, internet, 5.1 SS + more speakers + other components-help!

Hi All,

I am so excited about my new toys that are coming, but still need to get more - and am most nervous about making the right A/V receiver choice.

Here is my set-up and the components I am looking to get, or getting, and just want to make sure I choose a receiver that has all the right inputs. ***I am most stumped if I need internet capability in the receiver, or if my set-up will take care of it ***

Wires/Cables coming out of wall at my "components area"

* AudioQuest Cinnamon HDMI Cable in wall from behind TV (will handle 3D)
* Cable for cable TV
* 2 Verizon phone lines (1 for a new wifi hotspot here, and 1 in case we get FIOS in our neighborhood).
* Speaker wire for all speakers for the in wall 5.1 surround sound
* Speaker wire for L/R kitchen speakers
* Speaker wire for L/R outdoor patio Speakers
*** thinking about a Sonos plugged into receiver to handle the kitchen & outdoor and future sets of speakers***

Components


* Samsung UN55C7000 55-Inch 1080p 240 Hz 3D LED HDTV (arriving this week)
* A/V Receiver: TBD
* Samsung BD-C5900 1080p 3D Blu-ray Disc Player (arriving in a few weeks)
* Comcast Cable Box
* Google TV Logitech Revue: Not Yet Purchased
* Sonos?
* Want to add a camera for skyping from here
* Am I missing something? Other components, etc.

Internet Connectivity Thoughts/Questions:
  • I want to have access to the internet and my music, photos, video - everything on my PC -- however, I am getting all of this into the Cloud with YouTube, Picasa Web and Mp3Tunes.com (until Google has an itunes like music server (we do have our entire collection in itunes and on an ipod now) - so being on the house wifi network might not be critical, but probably nice.
  • I assume once I plug the Google TV into the receiver and/or cable box my TV and surround sound system are all connected to the internet and I can manage from Google TV or my Droid as a remote - or a laptop if all is connected to the wireless network (???)
  • The Samsung TV comes with a USB port to add an optional wifi dongle - will I need this?
I suppose I could wait until I get all of the components in over the next month or so and then things will probably make more sense when I see all of the cables and inputs, but I want to start doing my research on a receiver and your help and advice on this set-up is really, really appreciated.

I feel like through my research I am getting a good grasp on this but also feel I am either over complicating this, or completely missing something really important.

So your advice on my required inputs/outputs based on the above on a A/V Receiver and this basic setup are really appreciated

Thanks!!

Caroline
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Default Did some research - Onkyo TX-NR708 looks good

So I have been doing more research on trying to find the best receiver for my needs, at a price I can afford.

So far, the Onkyo TX-NR708 looks pretty good.

The Onkyo TX-NR808 get slightly better reviews, but not sure what the huge difference is and it is getting out of my price range.

I have owned an Onkyo Receiver/entire stereo system for 19 years that works as good as the day I bought it, so am a bit partial, and have also seen on this forum that many people think highly of it also, in addition to Yamaha and Denon.

Does anyone have any feedback on the TX-NR708 or have any alternative recommendations?

Sound is important, but I am really looking for something that will work seamlessly with the new TV we are getting, blu-ray player, etc., and I will really use/take advantage of the ability to connect to the internet.

Thanks so much in advance!
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So I have been doing more research on trying to find the best receiver for my needs, at a price I can afford.

So far, the Onkyo TX-NR708 looks pretty good.

The Onkyo TX-NR808 get slightly better reviews, but not sure what the huge difference is and it is getting out of my price range.

I have owned an Onkyo Receiver/entire stereo system for 19 years that works as good as the day I bought it, so am a bit partial, and have also seen on this forum that many people think highly of it also, in addition to Yamaha and Denon.

Does anyone have any feedback on the TX-NR708 or have any alternative recommendations?

Sound is important, but I am really looking for something that will work seamlessly with the new TV we are getting, blu-ray player, etc., and I will really use/take advantage of the ability to connect to the internet.

Thanks so much in advance!
The new "11" series from Denon would be quite ample based on your list the 3311CI can be had for approx 1000 or for a little overkill the 4311 for around 1300-1400 or all out Super AVR the Denon 100th Anniversary model AVR100 this is very limited so you would have to grab it quickly BTW a member of this forum Robert of ValueElectronics is offering them to forum members at a discounted rate (914.472.6364)MSRP 2495.00
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The new "11" series from Denon would be quite ample based on your list the 3311CI can be had for approx 1000 or for a little overkill the 4311 for around 1300-1400 or all out Super AVR the Denon 100th Anniversary model AVR100 this is very limited so you would have to grab it quickly BTW a member of this forum Robert of ValueElectronics is offering them to forum members at a discounted rate (914.472.6364)MSRP 2495.00
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+100 for Denon.

Though I am quite partial to Denon, I am sure The OP would probably be very happy with the Onkyp 708 though
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+100 for Denon.

Though I am quite partial to Denon, I am sure The OP would probably be very happy with the Onkyp 708 though
Onkyo has really stepped up their game with this release
http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...s=Receiver&p=i
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Onkyo has really stepped up their game with this release
http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...s=Receiver&p=i
That's a real beast!
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Thanks so much for these recommendations but unfortunately they are a bit, okay more than a bit, out of my price range. The Onkyo 708 is $599 on Amazon and that is really the highest I can go right now.
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Thanks so much for these recommendations but unfortunately they are a bit, okay more than a bit, out of my price range. The Onkyo 708 is $599 on Amazon and that is really the highest I can go right now.
I think you will be very happy with the 708.
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You would also be happy with the 608 if the features meet your needs. I thought the 708 added multi ch in, which it doesn't seem you need, more amp, which probably isn't needed based on in-wall speakers. There are great deals on the 608 too. The 708 is good for sure!
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You can stretch your budget by returning that AudioQuest HDMI cable and getting one from monoprice. It will work just as well for a fraction of the price. If you've bought other expensive cables, you might just save enough to step up to a better receiver.
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Ckone180 -- I was looking at the 708 because it looks like that is the lowest price Onkyo that has an ethernet port -- maybe I am mistaken and the 608 has one too, but that is something I really want - I am going to go back and look at it.

Bislander - Thanks for the advice I did buy all of my in wall speaker wire (alot of it) at monoprice - from advice from this forum But unfortunately we had to run out at the last minute for the HDMI cable because the contractor was sheetrocking the next day around our new box that was built for the gas fireplace where the hdmi cable needed to go -- so BB got our $$$. Good news though is that we had no plans to get a 3D TV 3 months ago when we bought the cable, but did get one that will handle it - because we just got our new 3D TV.

So we will be hanging our new TV next week after the new floors go in and I am anxious to get a receiver to start enjoying everything
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Bislander - Thanks for the advice I did buy all of my in wall speaker wire (alot of it) at monoprice - from advice from this forum But unfortunately we had to run out at the last minute for the HDMI cable because the contractor was sheetrocking the next day around our new box that was built for the gas fireplace where the hdmi cable needed to go -- so BB got our $$$. Good news though is that we had no plans to get a 3D TV 3 months ago when we bought the cable, but did get one that will handle it - because we just got our new 3D TV.
Those things happen. btw, any current high speed HDMI cable will handle 3D. No new or special cable is required for any of the HDMI 1.4 features, except for ethernet integration. HDMI 1.4 refers to the features supported by the transmitting and receiving devices, not to the cable that runs between them.
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You're probably right about the ethernet port, I wasn't sure that you settled for that, but definitely get the 708 then. You will LOVE it! That's the cool thing about AVRs, once you know what brands to look for, they're all pretty good!
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Thank you so much for all of your help and info -- I am absorbing all of it while I try to be smarter about this.

I am still a bit miffed about the Onkyo A/V internet capabilities (or all of these AVR's with an ethernet port for that matter.) What does it actually do -- does it just provide you access to online music as stated, or does it make your entire system (all the components connected), connected to the internet by a hard wired ethernet cable, One example, can I run the apps that come with the Samsung TV through the AVR -- and there is no need for me to go buy the $80 dongle to connect the TV to my wifi network..

I know I will need to get Google TV to actually get a browser on my TV. But, ugghhh...still a bit confused
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Thank you so much for all of your help and info -- I am absorbing all of it while I try to be smarter about this.

I am still a bit miffed about the Onkyo A/V internet capabilities (or all of these AVR's with an ethernet port for that matter.) What does it actually do -- does it just provide you access to online music as stated, or does it make your entire system (all the components connected), connected to the internet by a hard wired ethernet cable, One example, can I run the apps that come with the Samsung TV through the AVR -- and there is no need for me to go buy the $80 dongle to connect the TV to my wifi network..

I know I will need to get Google TV to actually get a browser on my TV. But, ugghhh...still a bit confused
The Ethernet connect is also a mode of firmware update often provided by manufacturers.
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