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Old 11-29-2010, 08:33 AM   #16  
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Actually the reason was the 3311 was the first unit released and it had all the features I was interested in. The 4311 was released almost 3 mos+ later, the money was not a major factor. I am ecstatic with it's performance and capabilities. And haven't researched the differences, but if you have any questions I would suggwst PMing DAVIDJSCHENK he purchased the 4311 and got it early in Oct. I got my 3311 in May.
I have the 4310, which is last year's version. I wanted the 4311 but BB didn't have one yet but made me a deal on the 4310 open box (demo). The sales guy told me that I coul dalways take it back as a return in a few months and get the 4311 since the 4310 is discontinued I might do it
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I have the 4310, which is last year's version. I wanted the 4311 but BB didn't have one yet but made me a deal on the 4310 open box (demo). The sales guy told me that I coul dalways take it back as a return in a few months and get the 4311 since the 4310 is discontinued I might do it
Stew, the features on the '11 series are sweet especially the HD-FM opton and Internet radio option/ features they are outstanding. You certainly won't regret it, that's for sure.
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Stew, the features on the '11 series are sweet especially the HD-FM opton and Internet radio option/ features they are outstanding. You certainly won't regret it, that's for sure.
I might do that when I am home for my 2 weeks vacation. I will scout it out....

Damn, I would love me one of them anniversary editons though!
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I might do that when I am home for my 2 weeks vacation. I will scout it out....

Damn, I would love me one of them anniversary editons though!
They are nice, but I'm not sure if it's purely aesthetics' or enhanced features. Their scarce and not being discounted by anyone limited production ( approx 500 pieces for the US market).

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Actually, the A-100 anniversary edition AVRs are available from some retailers at a discount. I know for a fact Robert Zohn is selling them and I think he offers some kind of deal on them. You could PM him and see. They are expensive, though: ~$2000 even with a discount at the cheapest places I've seen (WWStereo had an online discount code on them at that price last month).

IIRC the 4310 does have HDFM and internet radio the same as the 3311 and 4311, no? Stew4HD, I think the choice between the 4310, the 3311, the 4311 and the A-100 comes down to which features and format compatibilities you want. The principal advantage to the 11 series is that they're 3D-compatible. Does that matter to you? If so, then the 11s are the AVRs for you, with the A-100 firmly situated at the top of the heap. The other main advantages for the 4311/A-100 over the 4310 are (1) more finely grained Audyssey software, which does yield noticeable sound quality improvements (especially in the bass I noticed this), and (2) 11-channel capability with the help of an external amp.

The 4310 is a whompin', whompin' AVR that no enthusiast ever should disdain. If you don't want/need 3D compatibility or 11-channel capability, it should serve you just fine. I upgraded my own system to the 4311 because I did want the 11-channel capability and I also very much wanted the internet radio function, which my 2310 did not have (3310 and 4310 do).

So there's my take on it anyway--it all comes down to which features you want and how badly you want them.

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Actually, the A-100 anniversary edition AVRs are available from some retailers at a discount. I know for a fact Robert Zohn is selling them and I think he offers some kind of deal on them. You could PM him and see. They are expensive, though: ~$2000 even with a discount at the cheapest places I've seen (WWStereo had an online discount code on them at that price last month).

IIRC the 4310 does have HDFM and internet radio the same as the 3311 and 4311, no? Stew4HD, I think the choice between the 4310, the 3311, the 4311 and the A-100 comes down to which features and format compatibilities you want. The principal advantage to the 11 series is that they're 3D-compatible. Does that matter to you? If so, then the 11s are the AVRs for you, with the A-100 firmly situated at the top of the heap. The other main advantages for the 4311/A-100 over the 4310 are (1) more finely grained Audyssey software, which does yield noticeable sound quality improvements (especially in the bass I noticed this), and (2) 11-channel capability with the help of an external amp.

The 4310 is a whompin', whompin' AVR that no enthusiast ever should disdain. If you don't want/need 3D compatibility or 11-channel capability, it should serve you just fine. I upgraded my own system to the 4311 because I did want the 11-channel capability and I also very much wanted the internet radio function, which my 2310 did not have (3310 and 4310 do).

So there's my take on it anyway--it all comes down to which features you want and how badly you want them.

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David, thanks for coming over and adding that info, I wasn't sure of the difference and rather than adding confusion or misinformation I asked for your input, much appreciated. Thx Rizz
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Thanks for the responses. I just thought of 1 more question. I see that you can plug in an IPOD or IPHONE through USB. Will that connection charge the IPHONE/IPOD at the same time?
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Actually, the A-100 anniversary edition AVRs are available from some retailers at a discount. I know for a fact Robert Zohn is selling them and I think he offers some kind of deal on them. You could PM him and see. They are expensive, though: ~$2000 even with a discount at the cheapest places I've seen (WWStereo had an online discount code on them at that price last month).

IIRC the 4310 does have HDFM and internet radio the same as the 3311 and 4311, no? Stew4HD, I think the choice between the 4310, the 3311, the 4311 and the A-100 comes down to which features and format compatibilities you want. The principal advantage to the 11 series is that they're 3D-compatible. Does that matter to you? If so, then the 11s are the AVRs for you, with the A-100 firmly situated at the top of the heap. The other main advantages for the 4311/A-100 over the 4310 are (1) more finely grained Audyssey software, which does yield noticeable sound quality improvements (especially in the bass I noticed this), and (2) 11-channel capability with the help of an external amp.

The 4310 is a whompin', whompin' AVR that no enthusiast ever should disdain. If you don't want/need 3D compatibility or 11-channel capability, it should serve you just fine. I upgraded my own system to the 4311 because I did want the 11-channel capability and I also very much wanted the internet radio function, which my 2310 did not have (3310 and 4310 do).

So there's my take on it anyway--it all comes down to which features you want and how badly you want them.

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David,

Thanks for your input. I don't think I need the 3D capability of the 11 series but, as most people (mostly us guys), I want the latest/greatest. Saying that, the 4310 has lots of nice features and is damn smart when it comes to sensing inputs. I swapped out a 4806CI and had experience setting up a Denon, so the 4310 was a breeze in comparison, even assigning inputs were a snap.

I miss the bang of the 4806, which is a real beast but I needed more HDMI inputs.
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Thanks for the responses. I just thought of 1 more question. I see that you can plug in an IPOD or IPHONE through USB. Will that connection charge the IPHONE/IPOD at the same time?
Good question. I would expect that the USB port would power up/charge the device since it would have to send the necessary power to the device to drive it.
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Good question. I would expect that the USB port would power up/charge the device since it would have to send the necessary power to the device to drive it.
I just got off the phone with Denon CS in NJ and they verified that the 3311 and 4311 does charge your IPOD once it's powered up which they said is evident by the POD lighting up.
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I have the 4310, which is last year's version. I wanted the 4311 but BB didn't have one yet but made me a deal on the 4310 open box (demo). The sales guy told me that I coul dalways take it back as a return in a few months and get the 4311 since the 4310 is discontinued I might do it
I'm also looking at the 4310, which does have Internet radio, and a Ipod dock input, just can't justify the price difference between the 4311 and the 4310, who knows by the time I'm ready, the 4311 maybe last years news......nah
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I'm also looking at the 4310, which does have Internet radio, and a Ipod dock input, just can't justify the price difference between the 4311 and the 4310, who knows by the time I'm ready, the 4311 maybe last years news......nah
You have to look at it in the way that, being an already expensive investment in your assembling of your home theater that by sparing a few bucks now is actually foolish when for a couple hundred more your are future proofing your setup. You may not have any interest in 3D now ( as I don't) but should something come over you to go 3D, then you won't have to AVR shop again and suffer a loss when trying to sell off your older unit and lose much more than a few hundred bucks.

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Just bought a Panasonic tcp58vt25 and a Denon avr 1911 to go with it. My question is do I need to use an optical connection in addition to the HDMI? On my old projection tv and old Denon reciever I did have to, along with the component connections - but not sure about the new setup. I am going to be installing everything today and tomorrow and I can't wait to shake the house - I'm using my old but in perfect shape Cambridge Towers, Surrounds and powered Sub (12")
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Just bought a Panasonic tcp58vt25 and a Denon avr 1911 to go with it. My question is do I need to use an optical connection in addition to the HDMI? On my old projection tv and old Denon reciever I did have to, along with the component connections - but not sure about the new setup. I am going to be installing everything today and tomorrow and I can't wait to shake the house - I'm using my old but in perfect shape Cambridge Towers, Surrounds and powered Sub (12")
HDMI to your receiver and then to your Panny then sit back and enjoy.
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HDMI to your receiver and then to your Panny then sit back and enjoy.
Thanks - did it and it sounds great - now to start fine tuning the pic on the Panasonic
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