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Old 01-28-2009, 06:35 PM   #16  
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Sorry, yes.
Not sure I understand your question? What does a possible 4 month delay have to do with the vids?
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Old 01-28-2009, 08:09 PM   #17  
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They just need more time,
It'll pass. I don't think there is no hidden reason,
but we can only wait and see anyway.
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The problem the House members would have is debate on this bill when the public thinks they have much more important business to attend to. My opinion was the fast track was the one chance to get the cut off delayed.

The Senate bill did not really delay the analog station cut off for stations that are ready anyway. It has a provision to allow the stations the choice of cutting off their analog if the want to. My guess is most stations would rather not operate two stations if they didn't have to.
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Not sure I understand your question? What does a possible 4 month delay have to do with the vids?
What I tried to say was that no matter how long the delay the Grandma would still not understand.
Sorry for my lack of elaboration.
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B.S.: We've been hearing about this for a year, if people don't know about the digital transition and are not ready for it yet they must be living in caves.
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What I tried to say was that no matter how long the delay the Grandma would still not understand.
Sorry for my lack of elaboration.
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Old 01-29-2009, 06:41 AM   #22  
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B.S.: We've been hearing about this for a year, if people don't know about the digital transition and are not ready for it yet they must be living in caves.
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this is such crap......if you arent ready for the transition then you deserve to watch snow on feb 19......

i remember first hearing about this roughly TWO years ago! and how many commercials do you see from various outlets daily advertising this....

EVERY news station in nashville runs a daily spot multiple times per day with each of their personalities telling you there are only x number days left....are you ready?

leave the bill alone, let the transition happen and free up the airwaves for more digital, hd stuff.........geez
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The problem the House members would have is debate on this bill when the public thinks they have much more important business to attend to. My opinion was the fast track was the one chance to get the cut off delayed.

The Senate bill did not really delay the analog station cut off for stations that are ready anyway. It has a provision to allow the stations the choice of cutting off their analog if the want to. My guess is most stations would rather not operate two stations if they didn't have to.
Bingo! The reason the bill is now effectively dead is because there isn't a politician within a million light-years who would waste time debating something like this while the economy is in the shape that it's in. Politically it would be suicidal. Not to mention (like you already did) that this bill was really nothing more than window-dressing to begin with. Stations, I believe, are looking forward to shutting down their analog feeds - providing two feeds costs them money needlessly. I can't imagine a market around that would have held off on their shut off even if this bill passed. Passing of this bill would have just generated a ton of confusion. Can you imagine if you hear that this bill passed and you believe that you have another 4 months to get things in place, but all the stations in your area shut down their analog feeds anyway?

For all those who think that there's another bill in the offing... that it'll happen, just wait and see... sorry, but it won't. Political reality is what it is, and even if this bill were really a good idea (which I don't think it was) there is no way a new bill will go through, nor will this bill be seriously debated in the House. Politically it would be idiotic for Pelosi to allow debate on this bill at this time.
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this is such crap......if you arent ready for the transition then you deserve to watch snow on feb 19......
Isn't it on Feb 17th
I guess you're correct anyway, on the 19th, it will be snow too.
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You haven;t seen anything yet. Wait till obomber decides that HD is a right and includes HD vouchers in with the food stamps.
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:21 PM   #26  
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How long have people been blasted about this? For about a year as I remember!

I got my cards right away when they said when they run out, that's it.

Anyone that doesn't know about it doesn't watch TV so then it doesn't matter!

It's time people take responsibility for their own actions/inactions.

I'll sure be glad to finally not see those announcements about the transition
To be fair, I didn't wait until the very last minute, but sometime in late November I think it was, I went to the gov. website & registered for my vouchers -- still haven't come. This is for a cabin we visit rarely so it really won't bother me, but I think for those that still do get their signal via the airwaves, I'd be ticked off. Just another point of view.
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And... it won't pass in time. If the bill that the House votes on is different, in any way, than the Senate version, then like I said you have 2 different bills. They have to be reconciled. To do that, select members of both chambers (house and senate) go into conference, and come up with a brand new bill which is a comprimise of the first two. That bill would then have to go back to both the house and the senate, back into committee, to be debated and voted on, and if they pass committee, they would then go to the floor for... more debate and another vote.

Also, while the minority has no real authority in the house (this is a special case, meant for emergency legislation) in the senate they can slow things down to a crawl. The republicans in the senate could (and given what they did in the house, likely would) filibuster the bill. Without the ability to invoke cloture the bill can't be voted on, and it dies. In the house there are specific rules regarding debate. Not so in the senate. In the senate debate can go on indefinitely - unless enough members vote to invoke cloture and call the bill up for a vote. To invoke cloture requires 60 members - failing to invoke cloture is what a filibuster is all about. Keep 40 members from voting 'yes' on invoking cloture and the debate can go on indefinitely.

Yes, the bill is technically still alive, but it's in its death throws. There's just not enough time to get a bill through the normal legislative process.

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John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/29/2009 5:26:03 PM MT
An aide to Senator Jay Rockefeller confirms that the Senate has once again passed a bill changing the DTV transition date from Feb. 17 to June 12.

The bill, which again passed by unanimous consent--no Senator objected--contains a couple of fixes made in the House to language pertaining to budget rules and first responder communications.

The bill is expected to be sent to the House for consideration under regular rules. If the House Rules Committee gets the bill Tuesday, the first day it could, it could get to the House floor by Wednesday, Feb. 4, where a simple majority will be sufficient to pass it.

The first bill failed under expedited rules even though a majority approved it (258 to 168), because it had to get a two-thirds majority.
Hey genius Guess those old dudes in the Senate are faster than you think.

http://www.highdefforum.com/811198-post213.html
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B.S.: We've been hearing about this for a year, if people don't know about the digital transition and are not ready for it yet they must be living in caves.
No, they don't have f%&king TVs.
This is just a big waste of time and money, there are bigger fish to fry like..... let me think......The Economy!!!!!!!!!!!!
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