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Old 03-21-2008, 06:34 AM   #1  
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Default DirecTV DVR clampdown: a sober reminder of DRM suckitude

DirecTV DVR owners got some bad news from the satellite TV provider recently when the company announced that it will break some of the existing functionality of the DVRs. Effective April 15, subscribers will only have 24 hours to watch pay-per-view movies recorded to their DVRs. Once the movies are purchased, the clock starts ticking, and after 24 hours, the PPV movie saved to your DVR will become nothing more than an unreadable collection of zeros and ones.

Full story here - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...suckitude.html
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DirecTV DVR owners got some bad news from the satellite TV provider recently when the company announced that it will break some of the existing functionality of the DVRs. Effective April 15, subscribers will only have 24 hours to watch pay-per-view movies recorded to their DVRs. Once the movies are purchased, the clock starts ticking, and after 24 hours, the PPV movie saved to your DVR will become nothing more than an unreadable collection of zeros and ones.

Full story here - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...suckitude.html
This brings up a whole lot of questions. Like how can they get to your machine if you unplug the ethernet cable. Or is it something in the download itself with a self-destruct.
I don't have a DVR. So I'm not too familiar with the technology. But why can't you pull the movie out of your DVR. Or will it still self-destruct anyway.
As I recall, PPV is sometimes expensive. Especially wrestling. So if a person pays $40 for a PPV program shouldn't that person have the right to watch it over and over?
It is funny the article mentioned BitTorrent.
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DirecTV DVR owners got some bad news from the satellite TV provider recently when the company announced that it will break some of the existing functionality of the DVRs. Effective April 15, subscribers will only have 24 hours to watch pay-per-view movies recorded to their DVRs. Once the movies are purchased, the clock starts ticking, and after 24 hours, the PPV movie saved to your DVR will become nothing more than an unreadable collection of zeros and ones.

Full story here - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...suckitude.html

Sounds like Directv is going the way of Comcast.

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This brings up a whole lot of questions. Like how can they get to your machine if you unplug the ethernet cable. Or is it something in the download itself with a self-destruct.
I don't have a DVR. So I'm not too familiar with the technology. But why can't you pull the movie out of your DVR. Or will it still self-destruct anyway.
As I recall, PPV is sometimes expensive. Especially wrestling. So if a person pays $40 for a PPV program shouldn't that person have the right to watch it over and over?
It is funny the article mentioned BitTorrent.
I think the name says it all: PPV Pay Per View Perhaps we need a new PPV: Purchased Perpetual Viewing
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my personal opinion of any media provider, albeit Cable or SatComs...
they all want to milk you dry (your wallet).

They are like street vendors... wanting to clean your wallets
and pick you clean... relentlessly.

They are always planning new ways to stick it to you.

Even the cable companies are that way.

I simply can't understand how anyone can sign-on to the
bigbuckers programming...

foolish.

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Xbox live downloads do the same thing, expire 24 hours after you first launch it. All the more reason to buy blu ray!
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Bluray can do the same. They have the ability to play only if enabled through the internet connection(after a credit card transaction) , play after a date and time or before a date and time. I think that after they suck in enough people, they will slowly get into the capabilities. I can see it now, extra content=$1.50, visit studio web site $X membership per year, week, month. They can even set the disc to play x number of times and then could charge to unlock it online.
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As I recall, PPV is sometimes expensive. Especially wrestling. So if a person pays $40 for a PPV program shouldn't that person have the right to watch it over and over?
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PPV special events like sporting events and PPV movies purchased prior to April 15 are not affected by the new policy.
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For the price they get for these sporting events not only should you be able to watch it a long as you want on your DVR, they should send you out the DVD or BD of it as well. It is one thing to limit $4 movies but $40-$50 PPV events, that's crazy.
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For the price they get for these sporting events not only should you be able to watch it a long as you want on your DVR, they should send you out the DVD or BD of it as well. It is one thing to limit $4 movies but $40-$50 PPV events, that's crazy.
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Why not just burn it to DVD then watch it whenever you like?
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Xbox live downloads do the same thing, expire 24 hours after you first launch it. All the more reason to buy blu ray!
Oh yeah, that makes sense. Because we all know that Sony would have nothing to do with any DRM!
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Why not just burn it to DVD then watch it whenever you like?
You'd have to have a way to remove it from the DVR and break the encryption prior to burning to DVD assuming it's in a format you can use. Not the sort of thing average folks are into doing.
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I read that part. So let's say before the change a PPV event costs $40 and you can watch it as many times as you want.
After April 15th you can only watch it in a 24 hour period. Does that mean it will cost less now? I doubt it.
Like I said- for that kind of dough it should be rewatchable forever.
By the way, I have never shelled out that kind of money for a PPV event. It was (and even more so now) a ripoff. I know lots of people are willing to pay that kind of money. But I'm not one of them.
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DIVIX was a modified pay-per-view scheme by the studios when DVDs were first trying to get started as a format. It failed because the public refused to buy this defective product.

What would happen if the public did not buy the pay-per-view product that the studios put out? They would have to modify their product to make it more acceptable. Perhaps a 3 month window, or a tiered pricing - pay more and it lasts longer.

Its all a matter of taste and preference. I don't do pay per view, and you would have to pay me $40 to download and watch wrestling. But I have friends who pay $$$ in pay for view fees to download boxing, etc. All a matter of taste and preference.
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