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Old 04-06-2005, 06:36 AM   #1  
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Old 04-09-2005, 09:40 AM   #2  
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Hi,
Fortunately, our cable company also allows us to rent them instead of forcing a purchase.

I was one of the first in line to pickup the SA8300HD and love it's performance. The greatest criticism is the size of the hard drive which is about 80gigs. With about 7.5 gigs needed per hr of un dnrezed HD there just isn't enough room.

I'm not talking about archiving here. Let me use The Masters Golf tournament. If you record that only you won't have room for 1 or 1 1/2 days before your out of space. If they had a 250gig hrd drv, I would definitely consider purchasing.
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Sony's new DHG-HDD500 has 500gb --link to specs ---
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...e=tvhav_HDDVRs

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Yeah, those sony dvr's seem pretty incredible, but they are a grand. They'll probably come down in price over the next year or so. Plus, there's no 13 bucks a month with those like regular dvr's (tivo and replaytv, which I have). Does anyone know how it gets its epg? It says through the digital programs' code. Does that mean these units have a built in atsc tuner? That would definately help to justify some of the cost.
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yes it does say it has an ATSC tuner - if you mean OTA HDTV -what I find confusing is that it has cablecard but doesn't list Digital cable as an input only analog - I thought the cablecard was for encrypted digital cable - I only use analog cable now - I get my HDTV OTA from 6 local DT stations - the epg is a good question - my sony computer has a similar service from the internet that works with the sony software for the SD tuner in the computer - maybe its an equivalent data feed on an FM or TV analog broadcast signal - I does lack the two tuners that the LG LST3410 so no record one watch another unless you have another STB - Good Guys (retailer) told me they would have the 250GB Sony ($750) in the store on display in May but the 500 GB was special order.
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Hi, the article is right, the demand for HD DVRs is very high. Problem is that the Scientific Atlanta 8000HD, the first one released in our Time-Warner area, was a bomb. One after the other crashed. I had two that crashed. I could not watch the Oscars which I recorded because it crashed the next day before I could see it. The 8300HD replaced it, and I only got one out of a shipment of 10 because my 8000 crashed. Its been a couple of months now with the 8300HD. It is quiet, no chirping sounds from the hard drive, and works like a charm. 160 Gigabytes. Its all I need for now. Well, it would be nice to have a HD DVD recorder to permanently store all those grand IMAX movies...
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The EPG is most likely broadcast by the local PBS station. which leaves you at their mercy. Individual stations can also broadcast their show schedule along with the OTA signal, but they don't do it here in San Diego.
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The channel, schedule & show synopsis are all required parts of the PSIP info sent with the digital stream.
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Here is an interesting article that appeared in this morning's issue of CNET's Anchor Desk -

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-...ml?tag=nl.e501

I am sure that eventually we will see an HD PVR with a burner that WILL record HDTV ... BUT it may well be PAY to record as suggested in this article even for those that down convert.
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Looks like that editor is paying a bout $120 per month to the satellite and cable companies for his service and equipment - The bit rate of his SAt/cable HDTV is about half that of a movie DVD and a fraction of OTA HDTV --The $1000 Sony would give him 60 hours of real HDTV recording for the cost of 8 months service (I only watch about 30 hours a month of HDTV and would save maybe 8) and he would own the HD-DVR w/ decoders around next christmas. -From what I have seen of the Satellite and Cable HDTV in the bigbox retailers it only deserves to be recorded as SP on a regular DVD burner anyway.-In my opinion-
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The EPG is most likely broadcast by the local PBS station. which leaves you at their mercy. Individual stations can also broadcast their show schedule along with the OTA signal, but they don't do it here in San Diego.
here is a page from gemstar explaining the "Guide Plus" EPG technology http://www.dvdplusrw.org/Article.asp...&sid=-1&aid=79
I ordered a Sony HDVR (500GB) from amazon.com for 20% off MSRP
Here's a long discussion of the product. http://www./avs-vb/showt...&page=56&pp=10
seems like a good interim OTA toy until the next killer app. appears.

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Note that Gemstar article is for analog TV, doesn't mention HD anywhere. Digital TV includes program info in the PSIP portion of the signal (or should). Wonder how the EPG uses this info...
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Note that Gemstar article is for analog TV, doesn't mention HD anywhere. Digital TV includes program info in the PSIP portion of the signal (or should). Wonder how the EPG uses this info...
As I understand it the EPG is sent on line 17 of the host analog signal (eg PBS) OTA - it take 24 hours or more to download the whole 8 day guide for cable and broadcast channels in the target locale and it is based on Zipcode entered in to the receiving device -some kind of free service to the user - - the PSIP info on digital broadcasts is for another more limited real-time info display as I recall. -the Sony HDDVR would have to be unplugged to keep it from updating continuously according to my info -It has a USB port with no documented use - anyone have hacks or firmware upgrade info?
-Should have had time to play with it by next week. -lots of commentary on that 500+ posts link shown - looks like it's not fool-proof but works ok for some people in urban areas.

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