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Old 01-18-2008, 12:57 PM   #31  
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Someday if those PS3 sales translate into BD disc sales, you may be right.

Let's just say that the average BD disc title sells 20,000 units now (and I think that's an exaggeration since it would require doubling total disc sales from just a few months ago), with 10 Million players in the field that's an average attach rate of 1 BD disc sold for every 500 BD players sold or 0.2%.

The question isn't which of the two tiny niche formats retailers (and studios) will dump. I think we know what the real question is...
You are preaching to the choir, but until HD DVD has no presence in the market, we can't know what Blu-ray will do. I believe the growth will be significant, you apparently don't. HD DVD is still hanging around, not selling much but causing great confusion and reluctance for consumers to get inolved. Game players are going to start picking up Blu-ray video discs in addition to games when the selection is better and an assurance the format will survive is seen. I am very confident Blu-ray will find a market starting with the HD DVD exit from the market.

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Old 01-18-2008, 10:07 PM   #32  
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I'd still like to hear a reasonable and logical explanation why someone who already owns a PS3 would be hesitant to buy discs for it. Their PS3 will always play them and the discs will always play in a BD player.

If BD were to disappear, their disc collection would continue to play. If the PS3 were to disappear, their disc collection would continue to play on other BD players.

If the very existence of HD DVD makes them hesitant to buy disc, why aren't they also hesitant to buy games for the PS3? Unlike standalone Blu-Ray players which are available from a number of manufacturers, if the PS3 were to disappear, the PS3 is the only thing that plays PS3 games. If the PS3 goes away (or is replaced by a PS4 which is not compatible with the PS3, much like the PS3 is no longer compatible with PS2 games), they will never be able to play their collection of games once their PS3 dies.

The PS3 is essentially in a format war with the XBOX360 and Wii since none of the games are compatible between the consoles and all three are vying for the support of game vendors. Ultimately, the PS3 could fail to be supported by game manufacturers if the competing consoles end up with greater market share (Vgchatz shows although sales of all three consoles spiked dramatically up around Christmas, they now appear to be returning to their pre-Christmas levels, with the Wii and XBOX360 continuing to outsell the PS3 significantly in the US)

So why are people worried about one and not the other?.
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He was asking about a standalone burner, not a PC burner.

Granted that in Japan, like the Toshiba Vardia family of standalone HD DVD recorders, there are also standalone Blu-Ray recorders available.

The difference? The latest Vardia standalone HD DVD recorder is under US$1000 while BD standalone recorders are over US$3000 (and I don't believe any of them can record DL 50GB BD-R (which cost at least $30/disc).
Link please. The only Vardia me was aware of for under a grand is the SA burner that burns HD DVD media to standard DVD's. Not to to HD DVD's. Me believes that these were announced early last fall.
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Link please. The only Vardia me was aware of for under a grand is the SA burner that burns HD DVD media to standard DVD's. Not to to HD DVD's. Me believes that these were announced early last fall.
Uhm, the RDA-301 that I linked to in post 6. But if you don't want to scroll back:

http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/...d_recorder.php

Unless all the reports are wrong, it not only records to HD-DVD, but also can store HD on standard DVD as well (though obviously not as much) and I presume such discs would only play back on Vardia products or computers with AVC/H.264 HD codecs.

US$870--too bad it's only out in Japan (which is also the case with the BD standalone recorders).
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