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Old 02-07-2008, 08:06 PM   #91  
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But Belden does make cable in the USA. Unfortunately they send our cable to China to have the connectors put on...sounds weird to me...but that's the way it is.

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Belden does not make their HDMI cables in the US, they are made in China as all others all. But they are talking about making their HDMI cables here in the very near future.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:57 AM   #92  
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the Pb one had been grasped so tightly by the monster cable it pullled the entire plug right out of my tv. Needless to say monster's guarantee that it will never damage your equipment went unheeded by their fine customer service reps.

Time to go setup a website (monster_cables_suck.com), and start advertising it far & wide. Doesn't have to be fancy..... just tell the truth. Something like this:

"Monster sells "quality" cables that cost a small fortune.
"They warranty the cables never to fail or damage equipment.

"Well I bought some of their cables, and it grasped my TV's rear connector so strongly, that I found it impossible to disconnect. The cable pulled the TV connector clean off!"

"Monster refuses to honor their warranty.
"Do not buy Monster; their warranties are meaningless.
"They do not stand behind their product.
"Might as well go buy a cheap Sony product, and get the same lousy customer service, but for half the price."
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:11 AM   #93  
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Belden does not make their HDMI cables in the US, they are made in China as all others all. But they are talking about making their HDMI cables here in the very near future.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articl...-come-from.htm

Read the first sentence it certainly seems to state the Belden makes cable in the US for BluJeans. There are other articles on their site which state that Belden made cable to order for them.

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http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articl...-come-from.htm

Read the first sentence it certainly seems to state the Belden makes cable in the US for BluJeans. There are other articles on their site which state that Belden made cable to order for them.

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(ours comes from the US, but currently we have it terminated in China)
Just wanted to reiterate that Belden does indeed manufactur cable in the US, but they send it to China for termination.
Frankly it matters little where the cable is manufactured or terminated as the technology requires rather sophisticated manufacturing equipment and quality standards.
I would be more concerned that the facilities doing the manufacturing are ISO9000 certified and undergo regular audits.

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Old 02-08-2008, 11:47 AM   #95  
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Interesting article on 'Monster Cable' price margins and some extra thoughts.

http://consumerist.com/353938/monste...off-80-markups
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:50 PM   #96  
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Interesting article on 'Monster Cable' price margins and some extra thoughts.

http://consumerist.com/353938/monste...off-80-markups
First, I am as "anti-Monster" as anyone.

But really, we don't need help from idiots like these. They write:

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Here's the thing: digital cables, by definition, have no signal loss.
Totally incorrect - all cables, by definition, have loss.
The statement is just plain DUMB!

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A cable is either digital or it's not.
Duh!
It's the signal you morons that is either digital or not . . . not the cable.
Coax, for example, is equally suitable for carrying digital or analog signals within the limits of its bandwidth.
So, another just plain DUMB statement.

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As long as its built to HDMI standards, the only difference between a "fancy" digital cable and a no-name one is the price
Cables are not "built" to HDMI standards, they are tested and certified to meet the HDMI specification.
Actually, it could be better said that HDMI Ltd. does not give a fat rat's behind how the cables are built, only on how they perform to the specification.

Also, there are many differences, some having to do with performance and some with quality.
- wire size makes a "difference"; let's not ignore it
- connector quality and ruggedness should be considered.
- attachment of connector to cable may be of concern to some.


Bottom Line: The moron who wrote this article has no idea what he is talking about and really proves himself to be a complete fool.
By publishing such tripe, he better fuels Monster's ability to market their product - thanks for the help chump, but we really don't need you on our team.

Finally, so what if Monster has high markups or huge profit margins; that's what business is all about.
The article is no better than Monster in dealing with facts. (actually it is much worse; Monster usually gets thier facts right)

There's really only two issues:

Less expensive cables, from Monoprice and many others for example, DO meet the performance requirements of the HDMI specification and CAN be purchased for a far more reasonable price.

To whatever extent Monster is using deceptive practices, or encouraging resellers to use deceptive sales methods to market their products, they should be exposed.

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The article goes on to say . . .


Just wanted to reiterate that Belden does indeed manufactur cable in the US, but they send it to China for termination.
Frankly it matters little where the cable is manufactured or terminated as the technology requires rather sophisticated manufacturing equipment and quality standards.
I would be more concerned that the facilities doing the manufacturing are ISO9000 certified and undergo regular audits.

that is PRECISELY what I said

"But Belden does make cable in the USA. Unfortunately they send our cable to China to have the connectors put on...sounds weird to me...but that's the way it is."

Gosh I got to quote myself, am i famous now
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that is PRECISELY what I said

"But Belden does make cable in the USA. Unfortunately they send our cable to China to have the connectors put on...sounds weird to me...but that's the way it is."

Gosh I got to quote myself, am i famous now
You're right Ed, sorry if it seemed that I implied otherwise . . .

please forgive me . . . . . . on the other hand, if I have in any small way contributed to your fame, please send money.
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that is PRECISELY what I said

"But Belden does make cable in the USA. Unfortunately they send our cable to China to have the connectors put on...sounds weird to me...but that's the way it is."
That is quite strange, isn't it. And this is something they have only started doing in the last 6mos. to a year, according to Belden.
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You're right Ed, sorry if it seemed that I implied otherwise . . .

please forgive me . . . . . . on the other hand, if I have in any small way contributed to your fame, please send money.
No problem, If you want I could send you my autograph. Could you send me $100.00 and a call girl to cover the postage and handling (have to think about that one a bit).

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That is quite strange, isn't it. And this is something they have only started doing in the last 6mos. to a year, according to Belden.
like I said it sounds weird to me. The Blue Jeans site does have some good info and was surprised that their low end cables use this Belden cable AND are modestly priced, IMO.

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Old 02-10-2008, 01:14 PM   #102  
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I think Monster cable prices are crazy.

I am currently using the HDMI cable that came with my DirecTV box and it works just fine.
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