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Old 10-11-2007, 08:47 AM   #1  
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As many of us believe that 1080p is an amazing picture...don't count out 720p (768p), you can get some great prices!

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Old 10-11-2007, 10:14 AM   #2  
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As many of us believe that 1080p is an amazing picture...don't count out 720p (768p), you can get some great prices!

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6488968.html
whats the point since most cable providers and all satellite providers are not delivering full 1920x1080.
wheres the outcry over that???
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:21 AM   #3  
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whats the point since most cable providers and all satellite providers are not delivering full 1920x1080.
wheres the outcry over that???
While I do agree with the issue of providers not delivering the full 1920x1080 resolution needing more emphasis, that is a separate issue than the resolution of TVs.
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whats the point since most cable providers and all satellite providers are not delivering full 1920x1080.
There is far more to a tv than "cable providers and all satellite providers." Next generation dvd, next generation gaming consoles, a computer...just to name a few.
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There is far more to a tv than "cable providers and all satellite providers." Next generation dvd, next generation gaming consoles, a computer...just to name a few.
gamers and hd dvd represent a very small minority.my issue is nobody that can do anything about it seems to want to adress this dirty little secret
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It really is not a secret. There are some people that just don't realize what they are watching. And for good reason, imo. The fact is 1280x720 will produce a very nice picture that is far superior to SD, so 1280x1080 HD Lite will actually make an even better picture as far as detail goes. I would rather have a 1280x1080 picture sent with a good bitrate to eliminate more compression artifacts than I would a 1920x1080 picture full of artifacts due to bandwidth limitations.
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It really is not a secret. There are some people that just don't realize what they are watching. And for good reason, imo. The fact is 1280x720 will produce a very nice picture that is far superior to SD, so 1280x1080 HD Lite will actually make an even better picture as far as detail goes. I would rather have a 1280x1080 picture sent with a good bitrate to eliminate more compression artifacts than I would a 1920x1080 picture full of artifacts due to bandwidth limitations.
we could have both if they werent so greedy
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gamers and hd dvd represent a very small minority.
How anyone could refer to a Billion dollar industry as a "very small minority", Ill never know

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Old 10-11-2007, 11:13 PM   #9  
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How anyone could refer to a Billion dollar industry as a "very small minority", Ill never know
-There are very few gamers with 1080p sets.
-HD media is being outsold by DVD media, and the gap is widening
- No plans for 1080p Television broadcasts
- HDTV looks best on native resolution sets where the picture doesn't have to be upgraded.
- Need a large set to tell the difference when watching 1080p media.

Having said that, I'd be happy to purchase a 1080p set with excellent scaling hardware, or if running television through an HTPC which has far superior scaling.
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-There are very few gamers with 1080p sets.
-HD media is being outsold by DVD media, and the gap is widening
Wait, let me make sure I follow you...youre comparing the most popular format in the history of home video CE, and thats been out for over a decade, to two technologies that are just now coming to market? Im sorry, that just doesnt hold water.

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- No plans for 1080p Television broadcasts
I think I said it best: "There is far more to a tv than "cable providers and all satellite providers." Next generation dvd, next generation gaming consoles, a computer...just to name a few."


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- HDTV looks best on native resolution sets where the picture doesn't have to be upgraded.
Are you saying a non 1080i signal looks worst upgraded to 1080p if done by the tv with modest upgrading ability? Any chance you own an up converting dvd player?


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- Need a large set to tell the difference when watching 1080p media.
Have you seen the prices of hdtvs lately? Is 42" large in your book?

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Having said that, I'd be happy to purchase a 1080p set with excellent scaling hardware, or if running television through an HTPC which has far superior scaling.
Even cheap tvs scaling to 1080p dont result in loss of PQ...ever heard of Westinghouse?
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. . . television through an HTPC which has far superior scaling.
OH??? . . . . perhaps you mean HDCP which has absolutely nothing to do with scaling anyway.
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OH??? . . . . perhaps you mean HDCP which has absolutely nothing to do with scaling anyway.
I think he meant a HTPC. He probably thinks a Home Theater PC would have better scaling capabilities than a HDTV would. Some do, some don't.

The issue here for gaming goes beyond just picture quality. Many games have menus, text boxes, etc that are to reside somewhere on the screen in addition to the action area of the game. The more pixels that exist, the more area for the action that will exist. Until you experence the difference, it is truly hard to appreciate.
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I've heard Europe will try to go 1080, 50p. Eventually anyway. Europe is not big on 1080 50i, they don't like the interlace effect on flat panels. But 1080 50p is going to push the broadcast system to the max. Most HD production is not 1920x1080 anyway, while the cameras are capable of 1920, the tape recording is often not.
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:39 PM   #14  
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If they don't like the interlace effect on flat panels, they need to get some new flat panels.

With the exception of the Hitachi ALiS panels, all flat panels are progressive, not interlaced.

Except for the Hitachi unit, there are zero 1920 x 1080 flat panel displays that are not 1080p.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:29 PM   #15  
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I feel like I did my self a disservice by getting a 720p tv. It looked great at the store, and because of an employee discount and a lot of giftcards, I got it for under 500 bucks. Plus it's a sony and I think the customer service will be better if it breaks. But now I feel I could have gotten some thing for the same price at 1080p and should have. Everyone says that 720p and 1080p look the same for my screen size (40"), but I feel like I might be missing something. This is in addtion to my home theater purchase, but I'll address that in that section.

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