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Old 01-03-2007, 10:23 AM   #16  
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...The improvment between DVD and Hd disc formats are not as huge.
C'mon guys...qualify these statements! With a front projector that displays a 100" image or larger...the improvements are enormous! If you're talking about a 37" display and you're sitting 12' back then yes, your statement holds true.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:28 AM   #17  
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Smile Also need to add how far you are sitting from the tv

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I would also add how far your seating is from the television. In my case, the seating is close to 20' from the television set, so the difference between SD & HD is not as noticeable as if I was sitting 5' from the television.

From a mile away, both pictures are identical.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:31 AM   #18  
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I did make reference to seating distance with my 2nd example. No question that's very important. However with front projectors, seating distance becomes less of an issue because the image is so large that most living room sizes benefit from HD regardless of how far you sit.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:38 AM   #19  
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OHHHH Discovery HD. Yeah I love it. When I first got my tv I came in, saw how bad SD tv looked on it, but reminded myself I knew it would, then checked some DVDs with the incorrect settings and got very upset at how poorly those looked. It was Discovery HD, HBO HD (for the shows), and then my XBox that made the self-doubt cease. Now with HD DVD.

It's ruined SD viewing for me. I almost never touch my DVD collection or watch non-HD channels anymore. I wish I could pay for cable ala carte.
How about HDNet? Specifically the program 'Get Out'.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:53 AM   #20  
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I look at it this way....

1) People will spend hundreds of dollars for snake-oil upconverting DVD players and argue about how much better the picture is to justify the money that they spend.

2) I was once flamed for saying that progressive anamorphic DVD was a great improvement over letterboxed interlaced DVD and that I didn't see a huge difference between HD and anamorphic DVD.

3) Now here is a $200 device for my Xbox 360 that clearly provides a truely improved picture quality over DVD.

Now people are arguing that it isn't good enough. I agree at $500 or $1000 it isn't good enough, but at $200 I'm perfectly happy.

I think the reality is that as people expect bigger and bigger viewing areas the technology is just keeping up with PQ relatively speaking.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:30 PM   #21  
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I look at it this way....

1) People will spend hundreds of dollars for snake-oil upconverting DVD players and argue about how much better the picture is to justify the money that they spend.

2) I was once flamed for saying that progressive anamorphic DVD was a great improvement over letterboxed interlaced DVD and that I didn't see a huge difference between HD and anamorphic DVD.

3) Now here is a $200 device for my Xbox 360 that clearly provides a truely improved picture quality over DVD.

Now people are arguing that it isn't good enough. I agree at $500 or $1000 it isn't good enough, but at $200 I'm perfectly happy.

I think the reality is that as people expect bigger and bigger viewing areas the technology is just keeping up with PQ relatively speaking.
Yes, the same people spend hundreds of dollars on Monster Cables and claim the PQ improved dramatically as well.

As far as HD-DVD/Blu Ray over SD DVD. Yes HD-DVD and Blu Ray have better PQ, I am not going to argue that. I just don't see as dramatic of an improvment as with DVD over VHS. As one poster said before HD with movies is a mixed bag. A high bitrate anamorphic DVD looks really good on an HDTV. Now sports are a completely different animal. CBS and FOX have awesome looking HD for football, baseball, etc.


When the format war is won by one side and the prices of the players come down to the $200 price range I will dive head first into the HD disc format. One caveot is that it MUST be backward compatible with SD DVD (which they are right now).
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Yes HD-DVD and Blu Ray have better PQ, I am not going to argue that. I just don't see as dramatic of an improvment as with DVD over VHS. As one poster said before HD with movies is a mixed bag.
The content of the movie will dictate if it is worth HD-DVD/Blu-ray Disc. If you were watching something like "When Harry Met Sally", or "Glengarry Glenn Ross" (two people talking movies), HD-DVD or Blu-ray won't help much. There is not enough detail in the scenes.

But if you watched something with lots of detail, like outdoor scenes with mountains, etc., the additional detail will be noticeable in HD.

I saw a Blu-ray Disc of "The Fifth Element" on a Sony 1080p LCD in Sears yesterday. I could not really tell it was a Blu-ray Disc. A few months ago I was in a Sony Style store where I saw a BD of "Into the Blue" featuring daytime scenes of a boats, water, and snorkelers. The detail of the water scenes blew me away.
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That comparison that started this thread is not a fair one. I am not 100% sure but my computer screen is not High Def and if I am not wrong most computer screens are not.
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While many computer users will have their resolution set at 800x600 which is definately not HD, their computer monitors are capable of more resolution that would be HD. If your 4:3 monitor will do 1024 lines of video or more of video or if your widescreen monitor will do at least 720 lines of video, it is HD capable.

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...If you were watching something like "When Harry Met Sally", or "Glengarry Glenn Ross" (two people talking movies), HD-DVD or Blu-ray won't help much. There is not enough detail in the scenes...
Sorry, but that makes no sense. Seems like details in this context means something other than the definition of details.

Any major motion picture has details in its cinematography that can definitely be appreciated in an HD version regardless of genre. Dramas that are shot entirely in a single setting (My Dinner w/ Andre) versus a sprawling epic like LOTR enjoy the same benefits with HD. Whether a viewer appreciates both in HD is another matter.
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