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Old 10-14-2006, 04:09 AM   #16  
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Hybrid players, I don't believe it will happen

It would require 2 trays, 2 blue laser lights. The reading distance is different, the disc thickness is different. It would take a monster size machine...
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Old 10-14-2006, 05:00 AM   #17  
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Hybrid players, I don't believe it will happen

It would require 2 trays, 2 blue laser lights. The reading distance is different, the disc thickness is different. It would take a monster size machine...
Never say never.. wasnt the first VCR the size of a piano? Theres one certainty in technology.. hardware shrinks over time. Even the current HD players are HUGE . In the future , they will be slim, and eventually be portable.
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Old 10-14-2006, 05:24 AM   #18  
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Never say never.. wasnt the first VCR the size of a piano? Theres one certainty in technology.. hardware shrinks over time. Even the current HD players are HUGE . In the future , they will be slim, and eventually be portable.
Best solution, buy one of each.

Combos (DVD/VCR) have always been lacking in durability. Same with your proposition, if it's done, eventually, doubt it will be problem free. Some internal components will be wired for both operations and somethings will simply not work as intended.

Toshiba and Sony have worked years to develop their players... how many years will the other manufacturer research and test their hybrid ???
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Old 10-14-2006, 07:53 AM   #19  
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Very much from a consumer standpoint, hybrid players just perpetuate a bad situation. If you gave me one, I'd sell it. I'm not adding one cent of revenue until there is one and only one standard. All I'm trying to do it vote with my wallet, and that's really the only thing the commercial interests are going to pay real attention to. If NOBODY would buy players or discs, bingo, there's be one standard right quickly.

Anyway, hybrid players do NOT mean that there still won't be a "war" because you'll still have discs made in one, the other or dual releases (BD and HD). All factors guaranteed to keep prices high.
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I'll assume you're extremely patient.
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Old 10-14-2006, 12:34 PM   #21  
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Actually it's not that difficult to build a hybrid. Worst case, if you needed two Optical heads, they could both be mounted to the same tray (that's actually how HD DVD started until NEC developed an OPU that could produce/read both red and blue laser wavelengths from the same head.).

Even that can be avoided if Ricoh produces the variable OPU they announced, which is capable of reading DVD, HD DVD and Blu-Ray discs.

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I think you're definitely misinterpreting the one statement about NEC Electronics. NEC Electronics is the semiconductor division of NEC--they sell chips to CE companies. They don't care whether consumers buy HD DVD or Blu-Ray, they care whether CE manufacturers buy their chips.

Obviously they are encouraging the development of hybrid players to help grow the market, but they *targeting* companies that make HD DVD players, companies that make Blu-Ray players and, if anyone actually does it, companies that make hybrid players. They would be absolutely insane to develop an ASIC specifically for a hybrid player when nobody knows if anyone will build one. We already know that it isn't the technology standing in the way of a hybrid player (Samsung and LG were both well into development if they thought they were going to ship in late 2006, but cancelled their plans due to licensing issues--both the BDA and the DVD Forum have to be willing to license their technology for use in combo players).
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Best solution, buy one of each.
No way... I refuse to reward the mediocrity that is being turfed out on the Bluray format.

The only releases worth buying on Bluray right now in my opinion are the Warner titles in VC1 - and I can buy those with 5 Gigs extra and more audio options on HD DVD.

I'll do Bluray a favour when the Hybrid players come out.

For me it's either Hybrid players or waiting until those other studios start supporting HD DVD and VC1.

I will not let the bean counters at the Bluray institutions start thinking that they can get away with the garbage they've been releasing so far.
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I think you're definitely misinterpreting the one statement about NEC Electronics. ...

Obviously they are encouraging the development of hybrid players to help grow the market, but they *targeting* ... companies that make hybrid players.
Hmmm - I think that's what I said too. Doesn't matter to me if other Bluray-only or HD DVD-only players use them as well...
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I'll assume you're extremely patient.
Good point, but not really (sanguine is a better term to use). I do understand that my litany about voting with one's wallet falls mostly on deaf ears. If they did, we wouldn't be in this position. But the realistic chances are pretty close to nil.

Right now I find that I get what I'd consider a not totally unreasonable amount of HD content via cable. I am very content to be very selective about what movies I spend a small fortune to see on the big screen, and am content to be patient about when it hits my HD movie channel.

Someone over at AVS did a great post that I forgot to save, but essentially he said "we're talking about freaking TV here, not a cure for cancer." I try and repeat that to myself whenever I feel getting worked up about any of this stuff... kinda puts some perspective on things.
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...Someone over at AVS did a great post that I forgot to save, but essentially he said "we're talking about freaking TV here, not a cure for cancer."...
That's because the AVS poster has never seen an HD-DVD movie projected on a 100" screen!
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Post EETimes reporting on Broadcoms BCM7440 hybrid chip

Sony's lackluster interest in dual/hybrid HD systems, might change by next year when projected sales of blu-ray tank. I'm sure many industry analysts are counting on this to open up the HD market.

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/s...leID=193700002

Insiders believe that universal players supporting the standards will be introduced next year, taking some of the steam out of the fight.

BCM7440 supports the all the mandatory audio and video compression standards required for Blu-ray and HD DVD optical disc formats, including H.264 VC-1 , MPEG-2, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby Tru-HD and DTS-HD, Broadcom said. The BCM7440 also provides full backwards compatibility for current DVD video titles as well as DVD-R, DVD-VR and audio CDs, according to the company.
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