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Old 09-07-2006, 03:49 PM   #1  
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For all in NY, WNBC will be the first local HD Station in NY. All Newscasts in HD beginning Wednesday, September 13. There will be over 44 hours a week of NBC Network Programming this year. Also, over 28 hours of local programming in HD. Today show also goes HD next Wednesday.
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So, can I watch it if I have Dishnetwork with NY local or is it just for over-the-air WNBC?
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:27 AM   #3  
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NBC HD is a specific channel that can be acquired in a variety of ways... it'll just look a lot better on local programming and news.

Funny, the day before the press release, I noticed something on NBC news local; I got a shock. Prior to that shock, their broadcast was 4:3 and looked heavily processed to the point where it was way, way too contrasty (hard edged). Looked awful, especially when they switched to field cameras which were more typical "SD looking."

The shock was that while they were still 4:3, the actual picture lost that heavily processed look, it now had a lot more middle tones and looked sharp more from resolution than sharpening. Did anyone notice?

I think they've switched already but are masking it. Bet you next Wednesday they go widescreen, but the PQ will stay the same.
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Old 09-08-2006, 06:19 PM   #4  
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WNBC began using the new HD cameras this week but are running them in SD for the analog channel 4. The HD broadcasts have not started yet but will begin next Wednesday at 5am. The HD is still SD upconverted to HD. The picture quality is better in the studio because the cameras are new and are HD with much more detail even in SD. The picture quality is going to get much better once the entire HD path is put in service. Great catch though!!
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By the way, if you have Dish Network in HD you will get a true HD picture. Over the air viewers, cable viewers with HD capability, DirecTV will all receive the new HD signal.
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Boy, it still is a damn good picture on their HD channel. Also, the "shock" of going to network news at 6:30 is going to be quite dramatic, so I wonder what network is planning?
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To our mmbers in NYC commenting on WNBC News in Hi-Def.

Question for you:

On the downconverted analog channel for WNBC (Channel 4, I believe),
is WNBC "letterboxing" the full 16:9 frame from their live studio shots, or are they cropping the 16:9 to a full frame 4:3, thereby "lopping off the sides" so to speak ?

I believe it is just their studio shots of the anchors that is is true HD, correct ?

Their field material is still SD and being shown in a 4:3 box within the 16:9 frame ?

Thanks for any and all info.

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Actually, that Wednesday was more like they went widescreen, the picture was the same as it had been the previous several days.

But they are all over the lot... one night I saw they had gone back to side pillars (we're talking the HD channel), definitely HD picture bit not widescreen. The announcement DID say that they were going to be using HD field cameras... again, some of them I saw seemed to be HD w/pillars. I saw a couple of shots from the copter camera (again, announced to be a HD camera) that was widescreen, but the PQ looked much more like SD.

Now back in my SD only says, over the past 2 years I saw more and more "letterboxed" stuff. Obviously part of a good reason to go widescreen. Of course, from those channels we end up with the black bars on 4 sides... but I digress. Seems to me the thing for WNBC to so is use the exact same 16:9 image and letterbox it on their SD channel. This way they don't have to worry about cropping (which they seem to be doing). Widescreen where everything stays inside a 4:3 box is kinda a waste!
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Paul,

Thanks for the reply. However, I'm sorry, I could not get a definitive answer out of your reply. On the studio shots of the anchors sitting at the desks during the newscast while looking at Channel 4 (analog Channel 4), are they full widescreen shown letterboxed, or are they are they fullscreen 4:3 with the ends of the shot cropped off ?

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Paul,

Thanks for the reply. However, I'm sorry, I could not get a definitive answer out of your reply. On the studio shots of the anchors sitting at the desks during the newscast while looking at Channel 4 (analog Channel 4), are they full widescreen shown letterboxed, or are they are they fullscreen 4:3 with the ends of the shot cropped off ?

Thanks again.
channel 4 is cropped and not in leterbox. I have a non HD TV as well as and HD TV. On the non HD TV I am seeing channel looking the same as it always has. The bug at the bottom of the screen shows NBC 4HD. When they advertise shows the announcers says that they will air on NBC 4HD.
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Thank you Englandera. That was precisely the info I was seeking.

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I live in Los Angeles. Can I get NBC on HD?
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:45 AM   #13  
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The analog feed is 4X3. On the HD feed, the studio is HD, with all graphics, weather maps and studio in 16X9. The field material is still cropped or is SD, but in the next couple of weeks the field material will be 16X9 as well.
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I did say they are cropping the SD channel, I was making a point that I would letterbox it ON the SD channel. As they are cropping, they DO have top arrange the widescreen image to have everything happening in that 4:3 box, so the sides are filled with junk.

They also have the bugs all screwed up... the "logo" that says HD is positioned at the right hand side of a 4:3 area. It should be over at the far right hand side in what would be a pillar in SD. There's a plain HD logo positioned over on the left in what would be the left hand pillar. As such, it just looks weird because the whole line is shifted to the left (unbalanced).

In any case, I suspect they are going through a big tweaking phase, they clearly seem to be unfamiliar operating the equipment. Then again, they ARE the first ones to actually step up to the plate!
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My WNBC is not HD. I don't know what HD you guys are talking about.
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