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Old 06-16-2006, 09:50 PM   #1  
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looks like sed is gonna have some major comp. two companies are making the claim that they have pretty much mastered the lcd technology. with claims of better then crt performance. every major flaw with lcd ( motion blur, color saturation, and black levels plus many other improvments.) has become a thing of the past. these companies not only claim these improvments but are also claiming they will have there sets out in quarter 4 of this year. its a good read at the very least. if these claims hold up then i think sed is gonna be in major trouble. especialy since these lcds will be out about a year before sed will be.

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Old 06-17-2006, 12:19 AM   #2  
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When it comes to technology, I am all for the improvement as much as the next guy. However what used to take number of years to improve now only takes couple of months. This news about SED and new and improved LCDs frastruates me because the improvements are coming at such a high speed, you have to be Bill Gates to catch up with it (I mean money wise). Why can't they wait a little while before moving on as to give us time to catch our breath? I just bought the LCD rear-projection HDTV and am thinking about getting a Blu-Ray player (if I can afford it). Now they are already talking about all this new techology coming out. Now I know I don't have to buy into these new technologies but you know about human nature when you know its out there you want one. I say lets slow down. How do you guys feel about the subject?
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When it comes to technology, I am all for the improvement as much as the next guy. However what used to take number of years to improve now only takes couple of months. This news about SED and new and improved LCDs frastruates me because the improvements are coming at such a high speed, you have to be Bill Gates to catch up with it (I mean money wise). Why can't they wait a little while before moving on as to give us time to catch our breath? I just bought the LCD rear-projection HDTV and am thinking about getting a Blu-Ray player (if I can afford it). Now they are already talking about all this new techology coming out. Now I know I don't have to buy into these new technologies but you know about human nature when you know its out there you want one. I say lets slow down. How do you guys feel about the subject?
I say let's speed it up. We've been hearing about SED for a few years already and all we're getting is promises. Only the very luckiest folks who get passes into secret showings at consumer shows have been able to sample what might be available in the future. Now I hear the SED folks are waiting until 2008 for a release in order to coincide with the Olympics in China. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!!! That's a lie if ever I heard one. TOTAL BS. They have to be having MAJOR, MAJOR problems or else this thing would be on store shelves already. I mean, if this technology is as good as they are building it up to be, they could TOTALLY DOMINATE the television industry. It is supposed to be the best of EVERYTHING -- COMBINED. It (supposedly) has a BETTER PICTURE than CRT Direct VIEW and it's thin like LCD's and PLASMAS. It has NO MOTION BLUR with a 1ms response time, and a 100,000 to 1 contrast ratio. So I say, WHY NOT RELEASE IT? Something fishy is going on here, and I smell a rat. I wouldn't be surprised if it NEVER gets released.

p.s. That crap about potential lawsuits is also just that: CRAP!
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Old 06-17-2006, 10:55 AM   #4  
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In the next 5 years (because of mandated digital tuners) most everyone will be rebuying their video equipment. With that kind of huge market, there is incredible pressure and competition to get a piece of that. The consumer has demanded, improvements in all areas.. and at the very least, CRT equivalents.

There has been announcements (look around the forum) of sets that exceed the consumers demand... but at a heavy price. The trick is to make affordable units.. Sandwiching LED technology with LCD's brings improvements, but effectively doubles the cost (if not more). This kind of technology may be acceptable for industrial use in which cost is less objectionable, but I doubt will be taken seriously in the consumer market.

SED promises the holy grail, but I suspect will deliver less...and cost more. The higher end Plasma and LCD technologies are closing the CRT gap for a given size and have exceeded in HT large panels. Most are now demanding display sizes (HD) in areas CRT is not available.

Save for uncertain DRM, the market would be a tidlewave.
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Get used to continuing advances as we get closer to 2009 when everyone will have to go digital.

As pointed out above, the number of people getting TV's will increase. More consumers means more need produce the next best thing, until the following next best thing comes out.

Its' actually a pretty exciting time to watch the technology develop before our eyes.

As far as the LED/LCD being too expensive, more consumers means more production which will drive down the price to produce.

With the PC evolution a machine you buy today for $500 can far out perform a 5 yr old unit which cost $1500.

Sit back, fasten your seatbelts, its going to be an interesting ride
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How many of you are old enough to remember that we used to keep CRT sets for 10-15 years on average? Can anyone think ANYONE will be keeping a current LCD or plasma set for more than 3-4 years now-a-days?
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How many of you are old enough to remember that we used to keep CRT sets for 10-15 years on average? Can anyone think ANYONE will be keeping a current LCD or plasma set for more than 3-4 years now-a-days?
I currently have a 23 year old JCPenney 19" CRT (made by RCA) in my bedroom with a remote control that has 6 (count 'em, SIX) buttons on it [Power, Channel up/down, Volume up/down, and Mute]. I turn it on every time there is a lightning storm hoping it will get hit so that I have to replace it. I've toyed with the idea of a replacement for years but just can't seem to pull the trigger. So I know what you're saying about the way things have been over the years, especially with previous generations (our parents and their parents).

As for your estimate of 3-4 years, I think that might be a little bit low. Personally, I'd say maybe 6-8 years. But I agree with you if you're saying that people will be more likely to replace a set in the future due to functionality (increased technologies) rather than waiting until the old thing just gives up and dies after 20 years of service. Is that sort of what you were getting at?
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i agree. i just got my sxrd and im already thinking about the new sxrd, new lcds, and sed. i doubt i will buy another tv anytime soon but i may not make it through 2 years if i keep this rate up.

4 tvs in 3 years.
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Absolutely Cat-Dood! I think most "electronics" companies know full well that the tech-treadmill is an excellent business model.

I said 3-4 years because a certain percentage of the market will be going with a 2 year rollover. Another percentage will go for the 6-8 years. Obviously, there will be the 3-4 year group. IMO, a large percentage of the folks who are already into HD are of the 2-3 year variety.

I was of the 10-15 year variety. With my last set and where the technology has come, I was ready to join a 7 year update; it got cut short by 2 years because of a replacement component that failed way, way too soon (IMO a sign of how low Sony has sunk; 5-10 years ago they'd last for 5-10 years, now it's 7 months). And even though I'm in the 3 month club, I can easily see upgrading 3 years from now (hell, I'm almost kicking myself for not waiting an additional 6 months for a 1920 x 1080 set).
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Absolutely Cat-Dood! I think most "electronics" companies know full well that the tech-treadmill is an excellent business model.

I said 3-4 years because a certain percentage of the market will be going with a 2 year rollover. Another percentage will go for the 6-8 years. Obviously, there will be the 3-4 year group. IMO, a large percentage of the folks who are already into HD are of the 2-3 year variety.

I was of the 10-15 year variety. With my last set and where the technology has come, I was ready to join a 7 year update; it got cut short by 2 years because of a replacement component that failed way, way too soon (IMO a sign of how low Sony has sunk; 5-10 years ago they'd last for 5-10 years, now it's 7 months). And even though I'm in the 3 month club, I can easily see upgrading 3 years from now (hell, I'm almost kicking myself for not waiting an additional 6 months for a 1920 x 1080 set).
I've still got a 27" XBR CRT in the bedroom, looks great andi t's 16 now, going strong.

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I don't like CRT Technology..SED is going to be good, but it won't have the anti reflective technology that LCD has. That makes lcd appear as if a window is open. As far better LCDs? Yes the XBR if you want to spend over 3000 dollars. There is no problems with blacks on that set, I understand there is still a response blur with fast motion, but I'll live with that to have the anti reflective feature and not have to worry about burn in. The SED set is said to be an IRON for burn in.... worse than plasma.
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Indeed, when my 32 XBR CRT blew it's d-board for the second time, I borrowed a 27 non XBR Sony; it too was 16 years old (but it did have a repair once in it's life, obviously, the replaced part of was not meant to destruct withing the year).

Funny, I thought the Sony XBR LCD was better with blacks than my Sammie; I proved it wasn't.... took over my DVR with some nasty scenes and after watching them on both sets, I'd say they were almost identical.
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Why can't they wait a little while before moving on as to give us time to catch our breath?

I don't get why so many people have this attitude.
Buy the gear you like when you need it. So what if something 3.512% better comes out next month?
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