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Old 03-08-2006, 09:49 PM   #16  
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Post SeD is on the horizon...

SeD to make the big impact for the upcoming 2008 Beijing Olympics... but we can't wait... argh...bast*rds. Production begins mid 2007

http://www.digitalworldtokyo.com/arc...vs_coming.html

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"Toshiba and Canon consider the launch of SED TVs to be a major industry milestone, a once-in-50-years historical turning point for the TV industry, comparable to the initial introduction of CRT television."
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:48 PM   #17  
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Old 03-14-2006, 06:13 AM   #18  
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The SED TVs, which they say will provide image quality comparable to that of cathode-ray tube TVs despite their ultra-thin display panel, will offer "excellent performance characteristics," according to the two.
Glad to have a CRT RPTV. Always knew I had the best image.

The best example is a NFL game:

- A Plasma or a LCD will give good clear display of foreground (players, for instance) but the crowd in the background, if at a distance, will be shown as a blur of color... not at all like a CRT image which is lifelike.
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Glad to have a CRT RPTV. Always knew I had the best image.

The best example is a NFL game:

- A Plasma or a LCD will give good clear display of foreground (players, for instance) but the crowd in the background, if at a distance, will be shown as a blur of color... not at all like a CRT image which is lifelike.
That hasn't been my experience at all. I'm usually in awe while watching sports in HD on my LCD that I can make out the faces in the crowd. It really adds to the experience of almost being there, seeing peoples expressions and the roller coaster of emotions.

Unlike a RPTV, LCD's and plasma have uniform brightness across the entire screen so you can see the people at the edges of the picture with the same brightness as the centre.

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That hasn't been my experience at all. I'm usually in awe while watching sports in HD on my LCD that I can make out the faces in the crowd. It really adds to the experience of almost being there, seeing peoples expressions and the roller coaster of emotions.

Unlike a RPTV, LCD's and plasma have uniform brightness across the entire screen so you can see the people at the edges of the picture with the same brightness as the centre.
Yea, that's been my experience too. CRT RPTV's limitations have more or less made them obsolete. I would be surprised if they are continued by most manufacturers.
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..so the quote I was referring to (concerning the CRT sets),

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The SED TVs, which they say will provide image quality comparable to that of cathode-ray tube TVs despite their ultra-thin display panel, will offer "excellent performance characteristics," according to the two.
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Old 03-14-2006, 12:40 PM   #22  
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I'm pretty sure their talking about direct view CRT's not projection CRT's.
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I'm pretty sure their talking about direct view CRT's not projection CRT's.
...and why would that be? CRT RPTVs, like my 57", are terrific HDTVs displaying in 1080i for HD (and mine displays in 540p for SD) and I have never heard that being a RPTV it loses something compared to a smaller direct view CRT.
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...and why would that be? CRT RPTVs, like my 57", are terrific HDTVs displaying in 1080i for HD (and mine displays in 540p for SD) and I have never heard that being a RPTV it loses something compared to a smaller direct view CRT.
For years manufacturers of big screen TV's have been held to the direct view CRT standard of overall picture quality. SED is suppose to have PQ just as good as DV-CRT's but without the bulk (size and weight) issues.

Some of the issues with CRT RPTV's are: off center screen viewing is brightness limited and overall size and weight can be negatives.

Don't get me wrong, I've seen some very good CRT RPTV's. It's just that the standard has been the direct views.
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For sure, the PQ standard that all display technology is compared to are Direct View CRT's.

If SED's can merge the great PQ that CRT's are capable of with the advantages of Flat Screen technology, it's the best of both worlds for everybody. So it's a shame that they're being delayed.

I suspect this may have more to do with that bothersome lawsuit that's been rumoured than anything else. Shades of RIM
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:36 PM   #27  
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Amen brother. There is always something new 'just around the corner'. I am too old to wait for something 'a little bit better' to come along. I will be dead in my grave while still watching my B&W Curtis Mathis (wheeoow - what a sharp picture!!) if I sit on every promise of "the best is yet to come".

But on the other hand - where can I find one of them Holograph sets?
It's required to use a lasers, for corner view its 3+ laser heads, for full (arround) projection - depends on wallet thickness.
It's being out there since early 70's. The biggest stop here in US is potential dander for full projection bc some individual's eye can be pinpointed by laser directly and may damage some neural structure.

"Corner ones" are pretty secure - no one is alowed by show border to get into laser's head range and enjoing from short/long distance.

It's required also to have a 3D-printer which is kinda hard to get(FBI wants to know for what reason, bc reproduction resolution is scientific, you can print your own CC rainbow hologramms). I know this bc me and another guy was trying to get into the field. Nope. "corner" cheesiest set was about $160G's+ programming, modeling and some other jazz. Now its probably chiper.

One thing, holography is definately next step, but manufacturers will hold it down bc tv screens will die right after first retail.
It's just like mass production of hydrogen-running cars: everyone is up to it but GM.
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:46 AM   #28  
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Hearing all over the place those who set up the sed next to the lcd or plasmas made no attempt to adjust anything other than the SED.
I can make one set blow another one off the map if I want to.
Watch how the comparisons are at the next ce show by those advertising plasma and lcd.
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:55 AM   #29  
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Any "comparisons" made by people who are trying to make a point are suspect, but if SED's have the same black level as CRT's (and they should--off is off), they will outperform LCD's regardless of how they are adjusted, particularly in subdued lighting. You just can't make an LCD that is bright and has good black level, they are conflicting goals.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:09 AM   #30  
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I'm not saying that the SED doesn't deserve it's due prop's on the black level. Just commenting why everyone said it blew away the LCD and plasma's at the show.
I have to find the article but they even admitted to not making any attempt to adjust the other sets.
LCD also has a look of it's own, a look that doesn't represent glass, you see the term open window effect with LCD flat panels, and also no burn in issue. CRT as SED will have the advantages with the black level, but there have been big leaps in bringing the black level to CRT PQ with the new LED and wide color gamut ccfl lights.
There are pros and cons with all sets. The picture detail will be the same with any set that has the same resolution number.
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