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Old 12-21-2005, 07:16 AM   #1  
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:39 PM   #2  
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Look at the numbers

The Opinion Research Corporation was hired by the CEA to find out how America's TVs are being used. Of total TV households:

* 60 percent subscribe to cable
* 24 percent subscribe to digital satellite
* 2 percent subscribe to both
* 2 percent do not subscribe to a pay TV service nor use an antenna to receive OTA TV


ref http://www.hometheatermag.com/news/062105CEA/

According to these numbers only 16% of households use an antenna as their primary source of TV. True to form, the US gov has instituted another giant multi billion dollar program (free digital receivers), to service 16% of households (and by the way that number shrinks every year). No wonder the deficeit can't be brought under control.

Included in this is $3 billion allocated for the set-top converter boxes allowing individuals with analog TVs to receive digital signals. Under the Stevens-Inouye proposal, viewers would have to come up with a $10 "co-pay" before purchasing such a boxes -- but there would be no limit in the number per household.

ref http://www.njtelecomupdate.com/lenya...850712651.html

OK let's do the math, $3B divided by (the number of US households 104M times the 16 percent ) means each household gets $180 to buy their digital receiver with. Still another great American giveaway.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:42 PM   #3  
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Everyone was supposed to need one before too. With the cost of these tv's falling, the FCC better change that to 12/1/05!! who the hell cares! GB seems to do as he pleases why not the FCC.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:46 PM   #4  
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G. B. (our president).....doesn't make laws

CONGRESS DOES........

* How did your Senators vote.......... ?
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:59 PM   #5  
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The Bill passed in the Senate by a vote of 51-50 with Dick Cheney casting the tie-breking vote. However, a minor modification was made to a non-broadcasting issue in the bill, so it has to go back to the House of Representatives for another vote. It has not yet been decided whether the House will vote this week or wait until after the Christmas break.

You can be sure that there will be further efforts (lobbying) by the Cable Industry to prevent the bill getting passed as is. Before the House passed the bill on Monday a provision was removed that would allow Cable operators to downconvert HD signals to SD before distributing them (i.e. cheat their customers). Now that the House has to reconsider the bill, the cable operators will get another shot. Let us all hope that the Cable Industry fails in its greed-driven efforts.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:09 PM   #6  
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Glad to hear the politicos are concentrating on the big problem - health,poverty,energy and terrorism -all in good time -after HDTV
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:56 AM   #7  
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It's an unprecedented move by the government. After all, Uncle Sam didn't make us switch from records to CDs or VHS machines to DVD players. Members of Congress say the move is designed to make valuable broadcast signals available to police and firefighters in emergencies.
None of these technologies used the public airways, so there was no jurisdiction. Apples and oranges.
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There is a downside, however. Most television programs are not yet broadcast in high-def ("Good Morning America" on ABC is one exception!), so at first your set will be best for viewing DVDs.
Can you tell the author works for ABC? Hey Liz, ever watch primetime TV, Leno or Letterman? Football? And that was a silly example as most of the geographical part of the country don't get GMA in HD, only the east coast.
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According to these numbers only 16% of households use an antenna as their primary source of TV. True to form, the US gov has instituted another giant multi billion dollar program (free digital receivers), to service 16% of households (and by the way that number shrinks every year). No wonder the deficeit can't be brought under control.
The article does mention the $10 billion expected to be received by auction, which many independant private sector experts expect to be even more, but even at $10 billion in - with $3 billion out, that's a good thing for the deficit.
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maicaw makes a good point, I think, but it also need to be noted that part of the reason for the switch sooner rather than later is to free up spectrum for first responders.

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Old 12-22-2005, 12:30 PM   #8  
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By the way..........

G. B. (our president).....doesn't make laws

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* How did your Senators vote.......... ?
Correct! But, our pres. G.B. seems to do as he pleases. Vote? while ignoring our own problems? we can't solve our own, why do we have the right to try to solve others?
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Ok John's comment had to do with the subject at hand, but
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Correct! But, our pres. G.B. seems to do as he pleases. Vote? while ignoring our own problems? we can't solve our own, why do we have the right to try to solve others?
seems to be trying to provoke a political discussion. It would be better to leave politics to forums that deal with politics, unless the politics have a bearing on HDTV.
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You can't watch HDTV while being tortured...
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Ok John's comment had to do with the subject at hand, but
seems to be trying to provoke a political discussion. It would be better to leave politics to forums that deal with politics, unless the politics have a bearing on HDTV.
I apologize for going off subject. It's not for politics.
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My question for the people that would be against the change...when would be the right time?

For crying out loud, 2009...talk about fighting change.
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My question for the people that would be against the change...when would be the right time?

For crying out loud, 2009...talk about fighting change.
2009 will come too soon for millions of Americans less fortunate than you and me.

In the real world most people do not change without a compelling reason. Unlike some of the people here who can and do buy new TV sets on a whim every year or so, most people keep their sets for many years out of economic necessity and only replace them when absolutely necessary. The reality of the situation is that when 2009 rolls around there will still be millions of analogue-only sets in use in the USA. Many of these sets will be less than 5 years old because the manufacturers still persist in producing and selling millions of analogue-only sets each year. Shame on them.
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2009 will come too soon for millions of Americans less fortunate than you and me.

In the real world most people do not change without a compelling reason. Unlike some of the people here who can and do buy new TV sets on a whim every year or so, most people keep their sets for many years out of economic necessity and only replace them when absolutely necessary. The reality of the situation is that when 2009 rolls around there will still be millions of analogue-only sets in use in the USA. Many of these sets will be less than 5 years old because the manufacturers still persist in producing and selling millions of analogue-only sets each year. Shame on them.
Ive been married for 3 years now. Maybe Im biased, but 3 years seems like a loooooooooonog time to me.

I would expect that within 3 years people should be able enough to save up and get an HDTV. At the rate the prices are falling every year, that should be a snap. Especially if they want to get something like a 27" or 30" CRT. Not everyone has to buy a 52" plasma/RPTV/etc.

At some point the old has to be done away with and the new ushered in. Thats just life. You cant have this intermediate stage drag on forever...

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They should have required warning labels on analog TVs for a couple years by now... "Warning, not digital TV compatible. Will go black at analog switchoff".
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