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Old 01-21-2011, 12:21 PM   #1  
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Well,,,we did it again,,since the US is basically last in the world in broadband,,we just allowed THE worst provider an even stronger hand. Guess this will kick the shit out of me NetFlix viewing. Sad day.

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From the referenced article:

“The conditions include carefully considered steps to ensure that competition drives innovation in the emerging online video marketplace,” FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said in a statement. “Our approval is also structured to spur broadband adoption among underserved communities; to increase broadband access to schools and libraries; and to increase news coverage, children’s television and Spanish-language programming.”

I wish our government would perhaps put more emphasis on teaching English than on Spanish programming.

Perhaps you Netflix viewing will get better . . .
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:10 PM   #3  
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“The conditions include carefully considered steps to ensure that competition drives innovation in the emerging online video marketplace,” FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said in a statement. “Our approval is also structured to spur broadband adoption among underserved communities; to increase broadband access to schools and libraries; and to increase news coverage, children’s television and Spanish-language programming.”

I wish our government would perhaps put more emphasis on teaching English than on Spanish programming.

Perhaps you Netflix viewing will get better . . .
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Among the commitments Comcast has made are to “increase local news coverage to viewers; expand children’s programming; enhance the diversity of programming available to Spanish-speaking viewers; offer broadband services to low-income Americans at reduced monthly prices; and provide high-speed broadband to schools, libraries and underserved communities, among other public benefits,” according to the FCC press release.
lets break this down - “increase local news coverage to viewers
Answer - we already have 24/7 of the same old same old "breaking news"

expand children’s programming; - okay, nothing wrong with this

enhance the diversity of programming available to Spanish-speaking viewers; - ummm,,,ya want telemundo,,,mexico has it.

provide high-speed broadband to schools, libraries and underserved communities - there is nothing binding stating that komkast has to expand it's services to anybody. Nothing binding.

offer broadband services to low-income Americans at reduced monthly prices; - kind of like the free phones the low income get - we all pay for it. BTW,,,did you see their plan - 6mbs for $50 per month.

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Old 01-21-2011, 02:10 PM   #4  
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Are you a Comcast customer?

My provider is Insight. No real complaint about the broadband-- 10 mps for 50/mo. They offer 20, 30, & 50 mps at an extra cost. The 10 works fine for my situation-- Netflix streams fine.

But the cable TV seems very expensive; between the $16 for the HD-DVRs (2), the HD Package, etc. it's about another $110-- and I do not have any Showtime/HBO/Movies. Seems like a lot.

I think electric utilities should have got into the internet connectivity business a long time ago. They could have used the existing power lines . . . every home with electricity would have already been wired.

There is already way, way more childern's programming than is needed. There's so much freeking "breaking news" available no one could watch it all now. And WHY is everone entitled to broadband service-- or TV in Spanish (ahhhh, vivir del paro)?


When my grandparents came to this great country-- they had to learn the language; I don't think they expected everything to be available in some language other than English.
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They Now have un-limited Amount of talent and content and an Never ending excuse for RATE INCREASES!!
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:38 PM   #6  
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It does not matter if one is a komkast subscriber or not - their actions last November proved what they do indirectly caused NetFlix prices to go up for everybody. No matter the ISP. Cable TV is already a disgusting mess of hyped up tiers, a morass of propaganda news, a place where one subscribes - then has to buy movies - the leader in this ruffled mess is komkast.

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this is the first time ever a last-mile network has demanded compensation from another ISP for delivering traffic requested by a subscriber on the ‘terminating’ ISP's network.”
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Can someone explain this? I'm missing something.
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Comcast also agreed to abide by the recent net neutrality rules passed by the FCC, which require the company to not block or slow down online video sites. Comcast has voluntarily agreed to follow those rules even if they are struck down by a federal court, which legal experts say is a real possibility.

FCC officials describe this condition as a binding voluntary agreement.

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Google TV fans, however, will find no help in getting NBC to stop blocking Google TV from letting people watch videos from its online sites on their televisions.

FCC officials say that NBC remains free to block Google TV.
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Hmm, rather strange. I can't explain why Comcast (now owner of NBC) has to agree to net neutrality without NBC falling in line. All of this network news is confusing me. It is getting out of control. I did read where the US is behind pretty much every developed country in broadband.
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:49 PM   #9  
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While I agree that this move will make internet distribution of video harder (I'm less than convinced that content providers and service providers should be one in the same - I could almost be convinced that there should be a Glass-Stegal act in telecom... although I'm far from a 'more regulation is better' kind of guy, I think there's a definite attempt to set services like Netflix back on their heels in a way that doesn't help the consumer), I'm not sure how this translates to the US's position in terms of broadband connectivity. How does this move hurt us with regard to such connectivity? That I don't see. This move doesn't make Comcast a bigger HSI player at all. It means that they bought up a source of media content. I'll grant that it's meant to give Comcast more control over the distribution of that content (hence how it'll affect you getting your Netflix feeds), but I just don't see how this makes Comcast a more powerful player on the HSI side of things.
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NBC? are they still on the air?

Why anyone would want to buy that Dino eludes me.

Would somebody please bring back Ma Bell? When the US Gov decided she was too big and needed a spankin'...guess who got spanked? Do you really think we'd pay more for service than we do now? For a Phone? I think the Fox (no pun intended) was again watching the hen-house.

"The perverse impact of deregulation is that the FCC would be less involved with the media industry if it simply had said "no deal" to the Comcast-NBC merger.'' (Fortune)

De-Reg-U-Lation. One word that has cost the American people more money and done more harm than good, save for those that were deregulated...they've made out like bandits, 'till they get too greedy. Then they run to ground, nice ground, but ground none the less.

While government intervention is a bad phrase these days it is so in no small part to the citizenry of our country covering our eyes, ears and mouths like three chimps.

If something is too expensive... Don't buy it.
If something is wrong... Right it.
If somethings needs doing... Do IT.

If Comcast or Comcrap or KomKast really screws the pooch... do you not think another Enron like debacle awaits? Who made out best here...Perhaps GE?

Lets face it, sometimes bigger is better.

Electricity should be a Nation wide Co-Op.

Oil should never be traded on the Futures Market. Leave that for the important things like Hog Bellies.

Personally, I watch films. Once bought legally, it costs me about $1 to $2 to watch them. (the cost / the viewing times). The bride likes her Morning News... I've an antenna for that.

Broadband is nearly a requirement.... Crap...so much for that theory.


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Can someone explain this? I'm missing something.
Confusing,? yes? Me guess is that since komksat be an ISP provider - it cannot block content. Googletv, on the other hand is not an ISP provider but rather a retransmitter of someone else'd content.
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Confusing,? yes? Me guess is that since komksat be an ISP provider - it cannot block content. Googletv, on the other hand is not an ISP provider but rather a retransmitter of someone else'd content.
I don't know much about Google TV but I'm guessing it does basically what Tversity/or similar does. What's to stop NBC or anyone else from blocking Firefox from accessing their content?
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There's so muc there to respond to, but I'll pick one. Oil should never be traded on the futures market? Huh? Care to explain THAT one to me? Do you know what the purpose of the futures market is? It was created to allow for a steadier price of a commodity. Think the price of oil is out of whack now, just see what would happen if there was no oil futures market. You would have massive price fluctuations on the price of oil - every hiccup in the oil supply would have dramatic, instant ramifications on the price of not just gas, but just about every product you buy. How do you think those things get to market? Magic genie? Not to mention all the stuff that's made from oil.

The whole point of the futures market is to smooth over those massive swings that would cause ridiculous price swings.
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I don't know much about Google TV but I'm guessing it does basically what Tversity/or similar does. What's to stop NBC or anyone else from blocking Firefox from accessing their content?
FireFox is simply a browser. However, NBC could tell any number of web related video services to stop streaming their content. The pickle between komkast - content - user is brand new. We have already went over our 250 gig cap this month since all we watch is Netflix. Any sports is viewed OTA. This is where komkast has got the subscriber by the peanuts.
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It was created to allow for a steadier price of a commodity. Think the price of oil is out of whack now, just see what would happen if there was no oil futures market. You would have massive price fluctuations on the price of oil - every hiccup in the oil supply would have dramatic, instant ramifications on the price of not just gas, but just about every product you buy. How do you think those things get to market?
And the price fluctuation of $65 a barrel in the last few years, upwards, is due to a "steadier price" formula of some kind?

Sheese, stay outa the cool-aid from wall road. Nobody on "the street" made a fortune during that. Nobody... sure.

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