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Old 01-18-2011, 05:30 AM   #16  
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You can pickup a 50 inch 2011 3D plasma for under $1400 now, so the sets are coming down. Glasses prices are still bad, but theyll drop eventually, and yes its still in early adopter stage but they are pushing it hard. Last time I went to the theater I was shocked that the majority of the movies were 3D, even ones I did not expect to be in 3D. 99% of all statistics are wrong.

It'll hit that point, like 1080p, where almost every set does it but you'll only need it if you have the right gear. There are still people watching SD only on 1080p tv's.
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:47 AM   #17  
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You have any hard figures on that, or is it just an opinion?

A quick perusal of some on line polls looks like about 50% of people don't like the glasses (and I'd bet the figure is a lot higher for us double glasses folk) and since the technology is proprietary, IMHO it's not going anywhere until it's standardized. Blu-Ray HDDVD all over again.

More people that want to complain about something will post, but people that it doesn't bother at will not, that is why it appears to you that 50% don't like the glasses, for the vast majority it doesn't bother them at all or at least so little they can easily tolerate it.

BTW, the seat belt analogy is not relevant, I can drive a car not using a seat belt- but I can't see past the hood without glasses.
So you're one of the few people that are not uncomfortable driving without a seatbelt but watching a 3D film with glasses even though you wear glasses makes you uncomfortable.

That does make you part of the minority.
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:23 PM   #18  
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So you're one of the few people that are not uncomfortable driving without a seatbelt but watching a 3D film with glasses even though you wear glasses makes you uncomfortable.

That does make you part of the minority.

The majority of people don't mind glasses to go sit in a theatre and watch a movie that is true. On the same hand the vast majority of people don't want to sit around the house wearing the same glasses watching tv all day.

In a theatre people stay seated with little to no distractions at home many people are watching tv while doing other things. As I type this I am watching TV I don't know what it is like to look at a computer screen while wearing 3D glasses that I would be wearing to watch tv but I know I don't want to do it. I spent a couple thousand dollars so I wouldn't have to wear glasses.
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:35 PM   #19  
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Well, I think you'll just have to learn to wear glasses at home while watching 3D or just do without.

And I don't understand why it it would be okay to go to a theater and wear the glasses to watch 3D but not at home, in both cases you're just using them to watch 3D, just like if you need reading glasses to read, you will only wear them when you want to enjoy that activity?
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Well, I think you'll just have to learn to wear glasses at home while watching 3D or just do without.

And I don't understand why it it would be okay to go to a theater and wear the glasses to watch 3D but not at home, in both cases you're just using them to watch 3D, just like if you need reading glasses to read, you will only wear them when you want to enjoy that activity?
This debate is getting so ,so old. If you don't like the glasses then i guess 3D is not for you, if you do enjoy.We all know the glasses will come down in price. If you object to glasses then i guess you have to do this
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You have any hard figures on that, or is it just an opinion?

A quick perusal of some on line polls looks like about 50% of people don't like the glasses (and I'd bet the figure is a lot higher for us double glasses folk) and since the technology is proprietary, IMHO it's not going anywhere until it's standardized. Blu-Ray HDDVD all over again.

BTW, the seat belt analogy is not relevant, I can drive a car not using a seat belt- but I can't see past the hood without glasses.
Well everybody know polls are well polls ,they don't mean much. Its not like theres a guy waiting outside bestbuy asking people what they think of 3d and wearing glasses. Its some company with a agenda.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:02 PM   #22  
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Well, I think you'll just have to learn to wear glasses at home while watching 3D or just do without.

And I don't understand why it it would be okay to go to a theater and wear the glasses to watch 3D but not at home, in both cases you're just using them to watch 3D, just like if you need reading glasses to read, you will only wear them when you want to enjoy that activity?
I will do without as will many people. I am not debating Glassless 3D vs Glasses 3D I am talking 3D vs normal TV. People may have 3D at home for occasions but all day everyday viewing will never be in 3D primarily.
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I will do without as will many people. I am not debating Glassless 3D vs Glasses 3D I am talking 3D vs normal TV. People may have 3D at home for occasions but all day everyday viewing will never be in 3D primarily.
So whats your point. You said it ,if you have a 3d tv you choose to watch 3d or not. But why do you choose to speak for the ''people ''saying everyday viewing will never be in 3d primarily. How can anyone know this. Isn't this more about how ''you'' feel about the viewing habits of people with 3D?
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So whats your point. You said it ,if you have a 3d tv you choose to watch 3d or not. But why do you choose to speak for the ''people ''saying everyday viewing will never be in 3d primarily. How can anyone know this. Isn't this more about how ''you'' feel about the viewing habits of people with 3D?
My point is Unotis keeps saying that everything will be in 3D and it won't unless it gives a normal TV option as they won't eliminate a portion of their audience that can't view 3D. They also won't do it as it would eliminate the casual viewing.
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My point is Unotis keeps saying that everything will be in 3D and it won't unless it gives a normal TV option as they won't eliminate a portion of their audience that can't view 3D. They also won't do it as it would eliminate the casual viewing.
I didn't read the post that Unotis said that. Unotis has been here quite along time so i ? if that was said or not. I don't think anybody believes 3d will replace 2d with broadcast tv.Theres a lot of people out there[ and i know a few] that still have crts with a digital box so they can still watch there programs on a crt. My Mother who is 81, just got a lcd hdtv, and is not watching hi-def programs at all on it. The only reason she got a lcd ,was her crt crapped out after 20 years! I don't think right now theres anything to worry about. If i could do 3d right now ,i would.
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So you're one of the few people that are not uncomfortable driving without a seatbelt but watching a 3D film with glasses even though you wear glasses makes you uncomfortable.

That does make you part of the minority.
I didn't say that- I was saying it's possible. And if you don't use a seat belt you've got a lot of company- 15% (latest CDC stats) of how many million drivers is how many? Currently not possible do do 3D without the glasses. Maybe I can jump one of your analogies, and say if 15% of the population doesn't like (or consider it enough of a value to convert) is how many millions of people that aren't exactly going to jump on the 3D bandwagon? If it floats your boat and it's gotta have technology in your world, great.

I'm taking a wait and see attitude on this one. And it's not like I'm some dinosaur when it comes to technological progress, though I could date myself and say I well remember when newfangled COLOR television was an oddity- ever seen one of the first sets? It was like looking at a porthole.

Yeah I was one of the early adopters of HDTV- remember those quaint RPCRTs? Yup, had one before there was that thar HDMI. Hooked up BluRay as soon as the price came down.

And it ain't sour grapes my current plasma isn't 3D. Maybe it's just me, but I actually prefer the 2D Blu-Ray versions of movies at home over the 3D versions on the Big Screen.

Let's just say when there's no significant difference in the price of a 3D set as opposed to a 2D set, and they're giving away unlimited pairs of glasses for (near) free, you'll have your universal adoption.
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Then that is what will happen before you decide to give 3D a chance, that is fine as far as I'm concerned.

And using your 15% number, that is by definition a minority.

If you don't want to embrace this advance in technology then maybe you will later.

That is totally up to you, I just don't think 3D will not advance and become the next dominate technology.

Although I could be wrong.
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Here's one. I watch a lot of my TV time lying on the couch with one eye on it, some how I don't think 3D is going to do much positive for my viewing pleasure.
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Here's one. I watch a lot of my TV time lying on the couch with one eye on it, some how I don't think 3D is going to do much positive for my viewing pleasure.
Here's an idea.. I will watch and enjoy 3D, wearing the glasses when I want to watch 3D. When I ant to watch 2D, I won't wear the glasses.

You continue to enjoy watching 2D as you always have...

we are both happy!
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Here's an idea.. I will watch and enjoy 3D, wearing the glasses when I want to watch 3D. When I ant to watch 2D, I won't wear the glasses.

You continue to enjoy watching 2D as you always have...

we are both happy!
Like I said earlier, whatever floats your boat. Guess what I'm really trying to say is if you went HD 8 years back (I did in 2004) and look at the market penetration of HD sets- Do they even sell SD anymore? to where we are in 2011- my crystal ball says 3D won't come anywhere close to that level 8 years down the road. Maybe I'm wrong- but personally, 3D in it's current state leaves me underwhelmed. Not into the occasional eye candy of something apparently floating a foot in front of my nose, and 75% of the rest looking quite 2D-ish.. Wake me up when they perfect holographic projection. Despite Uni's protestations- I did a quick survey at work today, and I'd say the majority of the folks polled have a similar opinion- and a bunch of them certainly have the discretionary income to buy 3D products.

Yeah, I can see if you're a hard-core gamer (I'm not) it would be really cool- that IMHO will certainly drive the market. The lack of standardization is going to scare a lot of people off- unless like some of the posters here- it's gotta have technology, and you don't particularly care how often you're going to be swapping out monitors to keep up.
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