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Old 12-04-2008, 06:41 AM   #1  
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Blu-ray: A 2008 Holiday Hit?
PriceGrabber.com says sales of the high-def disc player are booming.
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Washington, D.C. (December 2, 2008) -- Newspapers across the nation reported over the weekend that many Black Friday shoppers purchased sub $200 Blu-ray players. Some publications called the high-def disc player one of the hottest items on consumers' shopping lists.

"Flatscreen TVs, Blu-Ray players, vacuum cleaners and toys were selling fast at a Wal-Mart store at Fairfax, Va," Money/CNN reported Friday. One newspaper said a $128 Magnavox Blu-ray player was sold out by 9:30 a.m. at another Wal-Mart.

The reports have prompted some analysts to wonder if Blu-ray is finally reaching a mass audience -- thanks to those lower prices. Until recently, Blu-ray players started at $399, which has led to disappointing sales. (Less than three million people own standalone Blu-ray players.) But with retailers dropping prices under $200 for the holidays, the reports could signal a Blu-ray sales rush.

Of course, the Black Friday news reports are based on eyewitness accounts rather than actual sales numbers.

But now two new reports have emerged that could give substance to the speculation that the 2008 holiday season could be a turning point for the high-def disc.

First, the National Retail Federation reported Monday that Blu-ray players were among the top-selling items during Black Friday weekend.

And today, PriceGrabber.com said that the Blu-ray player was the third hottest item during Black Friday weekend, trailing only "women's boots" and watches. The site, which monitors online shopping prices and trends, says online sales of Blu-ray players rose 147 percent compared to last year.

In addition, Sony's BDP-S350 was the third most popular product on Black Friday, PriceGrabber.com reported, trailing only Nintendo's Wii and the Ugg Australia 'Classic Short' boot.

The 2008 holiday shopping season has just begun. But if these reports continue, this could be a Blu Christmas.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/blu120208.htm
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I certainly hope it is!
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Still a niche format ATPIT.
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Still a niche format ATPIT.
Yes, but it is encouraging that they are talking about the sales of SA players, which can only be used to play movies.
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Yes, but it is encouraging that they are talking about the sales of SA players, which can only be used to play movies.
Not anymore.

Both Samsung and LG BD players (certain models) will allow you access to Netflix streamed movies in both SD and HD.

And if BD is such a hit - where are the stats for the sale of BD players for the BF weekend?
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Not anymore.

Both Samsung and LG BD players (certain models) will allow you access to Netflix streamed movies in both SD and HD.

And if BD is such a hit - where are the stats for the sale of BD players for the BF weekend?
I don't recall seeing stats for any products sold during Black Friday Weekend yet. Only percentages. So I don't find this curious that we haven't seen BD #'s yet.
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I don't recall seeing stats for any products sold during Black Friday Weekend yet. Only percentages. So I don't find this curious that we haven't seen BD #'s yet.
Yeah, I'd like to see the number of units sold for BD players and HDTVs, but they are nowhere to be found yet. Maybe we'll get lucky and get them before Christmas.
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Not anymore.

Both Samsung and LG BD players (certain models) will allow you access to Netflix streamed movies in both SD and HD.

And if BD is such a hit - where are the stats for the sale of BD players for the BF weekend?
I said it was encouraging because you can only play movies on them. Last I checked Netflix was movies.
My statement was meant to distinguish them from PS3s which can play games.

Did you get your Blu-ray player yet? Wasn't your criteria that the SA be a major brand, profile 2.0, capable of internal decoding of advanced codecs, and be under $200? Well I think that time has come.
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I said it was encouraging because you can only play movies on them. Last I checked Netflix was movies.
My statement was meant to distinguish them from PS3s which can play games.

Did you get your Blu-ray player yet? Wasn't your criteria that the SA be a major brand, profile 2.0, capable of internal decoding of advanced codecs, and be under $200? Well I think that time has come.
Being retired and living off his investments that have nosedived, he said the landscape changed. I do not blame him as the least he can draw on those investments while they are down now means when they come back, it would be worth double what he can draw out now. SO in effect, drawing out an additional $200.00 now will cost him maybe $400.00 for that $200.00 player rather than wait for the market to come back.

I think Lee will get one when the financial time is right for HIM.
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I don't recall seeing stats for any products sold during Black Friday Weekend yet. Only percentages. So I don't find this curious that we haven't seen BD #'s yet.
Retailers see sales drop in dreary November

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081204/...e/retail_sales
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Retailers see sales drop in dreary November

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081204/...e/retail_sales
Where does this article show actual numbers?? I see a bunch of percentages, but no numbers of actual unit sales...
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Wow! From Lee's link:

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Teen retailer Abercrombie & Fitch, which has resisted deep discounting, saw a 28 percent same-store sales drop.
You know times are bad when teens who blow most of their money stop spending like they did.
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Where does this article show actual numbers?? I see a bunch of percentages, but no numbers of actual unit sales...
With the kinds of drops in sales reported having hard numbers almost doesn't matter. They are talking about the worst sales since 1969 for Pete's sake.

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Retailers see sales drop in dreary November

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081204/...e/retail_sales
As a whole, sales are down, but they didn't mention electronics specifically, and how it is fairing.

I know that when I went to a local Sears to pick up the BD35, the salesman mentioned that someone earlier had ordered 21 of them.
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As a whole, sales are down, but they didn't mention electronics specifically, and how it is fairing.

I know that when I went to a local Sears to pick up the BD35, the salesman mentioned that someone earlier had ordered 21 of them.
The numbers are coming. Last year we got them about a week after BF weekend.

The CE market is a very important part of the overall market and is reported frequently as you have seen over the course of 2008.
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