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Old 01-09-2008, 01:02 PM   #61  
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"On top of this the vast majority of HDTVs available today only go up to 1080i"

That's today, no thought what-so-ever of the future. Why would someone want to go out and buy a player knowing full well that they might have to buy a new one in a year to keep up with the current (then) technology. Isn't that the biggest argument against BD right now? Isn't that what you said is bad about BD? (For the record, I agree with you on that count.) I'm not going to buy a BD player until I can get one with at least the 2.0 profile. So I'll wait. But why lift HD-DVD up on some kind of artificial pedestal as being 100% capable out of the box all the way down the line when the truth is they aren't? The lowerer priced models don't have 100% capability for the eventual standard out of the box and won't be able to in the future. Therefore, if a person wants to get 1080p they have to spend the same $$$ as a BD player.
IMO the 1080i players is a great thing. An entry level player for those who would like to see what HDM is all about but are not willing to invest at least 2x more to find out. There's nothing saying that in 3 or 4 years they will still be made if demand drops off. It filling a vital part of the market place right now.

That's hardly the same as the profile issue. If all profiles were out and people had a choice and chose not to buy a Live player then that was their choice. If people don't buy the final profile players because they want to the Live players but not at the extra cost CEMs will have to adjust or the market dies.

Right now we keep getting the here's todays model, 1.0. Very soon they will all be 1.1. But look over at CES because there's the 2.0 on display. We can't be sure which one you'll want or what each one will do yet because we really haven't thought that far in advance. Maybe the 1.0 is all that's needed or maybe internet connectivity will be a must.

On the other hand HD DVD said we will give you a choice. Every player we have will play all the features just fine. If you have a 1080i only HDTV or if you don't want to spend the extra money then we have a player for you. If you want more here it is. My choice.
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Apocolypse, I have to apologize, I hit quote instead of reply. That was not directed at you in any way. Please forgive.
Sorry as well. I think recent events have made many of us more....combative than usual.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:11 PM   #63  
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I'm likely to buy BD...if this tug of war ever ends ! I mean until it's final I haven't been, and won't be, buying either HD DVD or BD films.

The only HD DVD films I have are the three I got with my player...
1)A Perfect Storm...CRAP
2)Black Rain...Not Horrible
3)Fast & Furious-Tokyo Drift...CRAP

I'll continue to buy SD DVD when they're cheap. But I have over 800 in my ziplist from rogers online movie service. That'll keep me happy until this thing sort's itself out I think, ha ha ! If not, I've got lot's of hockey to watch until at least june, by then It'll be over, or I'll play my 360 !

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Old 01-09-2008, 02:18 PM   #64  
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I'm likely to buy BD...if this tug of war ever ends ! I mean until it's final I haven't been, and won't be, buying either HD DVD or BD films.

The only HD DVD films I have are the three I got with my player...
1)A Perfect Storm...CRAP
2)Black Rain...Not Horrible
3)Fast & Furious-Tokyo Drift...CRAP

I'll continue to buy SD DVD when they're cheap. But I have over 800 in my ziplist from rogers online movie service. That'll keep me happy until this thing sort's itself out I think, ha ha ! If not, I've got lot's of hockey to watch until at least june, by then It'll be over, or I'll play my 360 !

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What was the issue with those movies?
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I haven't bought a Blu-ray player yet, but given WB's announcement, I'll probably end up buying one later this year. To me, formats don't really matter and I don't mind using 2 players or (later) a dual format player. PQ/AQ is my main concern and in that light the format are essentially the same. I'll still continue to buy HD DVDs (Universal and Paramount are still exclusive, BTW, why cut myself off from that?) and like I said, I'm totally unconcerned about my movies/players becoming 'obsolete'. That's BS. It's only obsolete if/when another format better than HD DVD comes along. I don't see that happening for many years.
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They work fine...they just are BAD movies. Like I said only Black Rain kept me interested to any satisfaction...barely.

I guess for me because of growing up and doing alot of deep sea fishing on the east coast, perfect storm was a joke.

Also doing my fair share of "stunts" in vehicles growing up, ditto for Tokyo Drift, not to mention it looked fake as well.

I guess for those who have never done anything like those films portray, it's all fantasy, so it's OK.

Just more of the same BS is all. I'm bored with alot of films actually. I like a story, somewhat believable please. That's alot to ask from hollywood sadly.


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Old 01-09-2008, 02:31 PM   #67  
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I haven't bought a Blu-ray player yet, but given WB's announcement, I'll probably end up buying one later this year.
Something I never thought I'd hear from you Bruce. Hey, if you do, you can get that Shakira BD.
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They work fine...they just are BAD movies. Like I said only Black Rain kept me interested to any satisfaction...barely.

I guess for me because of growing up and doing alot of deep sea fishing on the east coast, perfect storm was a joke.

Also doing my fair share of "stunts" in vehicles growing up, ditto for Tokyo Drift, not to mention it looked fake as well.

I guess for those who have never done anything like those films portray, it's all fantasy, so it's OK.

Just more of the same BS is all. I'm bored with alot of films actually. I like a story, somewhat believable please. That's alot to ask from hollywood sadly.


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Something I never thought I'd hear from you Bruce. Hey, if you do, you can get that Shakira BD.
Sadly we most likely won't have choice if we want HDM.. Hips don't and hers talk loud!
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Something I never thought I'd hear from you Bruce. Hey, if you do, you can get that Shakira BD.
You remember that. Like other HD DVD supporters, I've done some soul searching, and it's just stupid and stubborn to not buy HD movies in full 1080p because your chosen format didn't win. To me, it's (by far) the lesser of 2 evils (buying BD rather than abstain from HD optical). I have a really bad feeling that we're gonna here the word 'Sony' a lot for the next several years, but it is what it is...
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I have it on SD DVD, and yes I love it. I love Anthony Hopkins, and thought he was/is terrific.

Another one film I just picked up is "Proof" with Anthony Hopkins, Jake Gyllenhaal (also excellent actor in Donnie Darko and Jarhead etc.) and Gwyneth Paltrow. Paltrow was someone I never had much regard for until this movie, she was terrific. Excellent film !

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Ya but "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" is only on HD DVD, right ?

That's a classic, ha ha ! Now I'm craving pizza ?

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You remember that. Like other HD DVD supporters, I've done some soul searching, and it's just stupid and stubborn to not buy HD movies in full 1080p because your chosen format didn't win. To me, it's (by far) the lesser of 2 evils (buying BD rather than abstain from HD optical). I have a really bad feeling that we're gonna here the word 'Sony' a lot for the next several years, but it is what it is...
Glad to hear that mate. Let the HD times continue

Think how special your HD DVD collection is going to be in a few years time, have you considered gunning after every US HD DVD release when the format is discontinued? I did that with Dreamcast games here in the UK, were some of the best times I've had Most people were paying 40 for the really substandard early PS2 content, not me, I was paying 99p a game
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I have it on SD DVD, and yes I love it. I love Anthony Hopkins, and thought he was/is terrific.

Another one film I just picked up is "Proof" with Anthony Hopkins, Jake Gyllenhaal (also excellent actor in Donnie Darko and Jarhead etc.) and Gwyneth Paltrow. Paltrow was someone I never had much regard for until this movie, she was terrific. Excellent film !

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I like Hopkins a lot too. Titus is another good one for him. I have Proof as well.

Donnie Darko is still one of the treats I like to watch.
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:05 PM   #75  
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He's assuming all HD sources will be 1080p or thinking they should be cuz Sony tells him it is the best and he pays well for it.

Of course we are nothing but HD DVD fanboys for not buying everything Sony tries to sell...

WE MUST CHANGE or be left behind!
No, 1080p is the eventual standard. Correct, currently no cable/satellite is capable of 1080p, but they will be. "Sony" has nothing to do with it. The industry will eventually be 1080p regardless of who wins the HDM war.

My whole point to what I said was that HD-DVD enthusiasts are villifying BD for something that they refuse to admit is true about HD-DVD also. In fact, somebody here even touts it now as a "feature" of the whole HD-DVD experience. I love that one. BD screwed up with the profiles, no one is arguing that one.

In reality, do you even truly understand the difference between the profiles? Because if you do, you realize that all the hype and misinfo about them is way over blown. Not saying "profiles are good", just saying it's not as bad as it's made out to be.

According to Hi-Def Digest, profile 1.0 players will still play 1.1 and 2.0 movies. You just won't be able to take advantage of the 1.1 and 2.0 features on the 1.0 player. What are those features? 1.1 adds pip second tuner and local storage. That's a big one to me because the bonus content is pretty cool. 2.0 adds internet connection and more storage. That's it. Big deal. So you can't go out to the movie studios HD enable internet store and buy the ball cap from the movie on your player. Wow, deal breaker....... With a similar argument that HD-DVD supporters use, how many people currently have internet hooked up to their DVD players today? How many actually have broadband internet? So just like 1080i is a "feature" for budget conscious HD-DVD buyers, isn't profile 1.1 a "feature" for budget conscious BD buyers who don't care about the internet in anyway? Lame argument both ways IMHO.

Yes, that's a big screw up by the BDA. And it will hurt them, no doubt. But to claim some kind of superiority over BD when your chosen format has a similarly minor flaw is lunacy. However, edge to HD-DVD because the minor flaw really is more minor than BD's.

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