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Old 01-05-2008, 09:54 AM   #1  
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Blu-Ray, the new Laser Disc!!!

Thanks Warner for killing off HDM. Was 1/2 billion worth it?

I can't see Blu-Ray taking off anymore. They will never outsell SD DVD. Well not in another 2 to 3 years that is. And by the time that happens something better will be out that will costs cheaper. Can HD VMD do it?
And how long can PS3 FanBoys & BOGO sales sway the numbers from the truth? I am very surprised Warner chose this manipulative route. Lots of MONEY.
Toshiba & MS should have sold their souls to gain Warner.

Now HD DVD needs very good news, something that will drive momentum on their behalf Big Time, what can that is? Disney/Lions Gate move into the HD DVD Camp? TL51GB & TLTwin discs to be released by Universal/Paramount/DreamWorks etc. ONLY? With no separate SD DVD?
You all just got my Q1 2008 & Q3 2008 info, though I didnít think it would have turned out this way.

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I can agree with this. DVD is in far too many places for blu-ray to replace it in a timly manner. And with no backwards compatible discs, someone will need to upgrade every single player they have or double dip.

We will see a new format before blu-ray overtakes DVD.
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Super XP Warner has gone on record saying they received no payoff... and you know what I didn't expect this from you... spitting fan boy propaganda, when Paramount/Dream Works was payed off to be HDDVD exclusive what did I do, I went and bought a player that day so learn from me and do as I do...
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Does this guy ever quit?

Take the news like a man, Super XP. You lost, plain and simple.
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I can agree with this. DVD is in far too many places for blu-ray to replace it in a timly manner. And with no backwards compatible discs, someone will need to upgrade every single player they have or double dip.

We will see a new format before blu-ray overtakes DVD.
A new format or a new way to watch movies? I wonder shulman, did you think HD DVD could've replaced DVD or is it just Blu-ray?
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Super XP Warner has gone on record saying they received no payoff...
Of course they have, and do you believe them? They had no reason to go Blu, let alone announce it right now. So money talks and that is a fact.
So by taking the big Pay Off, they agreed to announce it right now to help sway momentum away from HD DVD. If Warner wanted to go Blu, they should have announced it in June 1, 2008 not now IMO.
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A new format or a new way to watch movies? I wonder shulman, did you think HD DVD could've replaced DVD or is it just Blu-ray?
A new format possible, or possibly just downloads.. Not sure really.

I think HD DVD could have replaced DVD if the Combo/Twin format was used exclusively. DVD exists in far too many places to not retain backwards compatibility. Especially with a format that is so similiar physically.

Without a combo or twin, I don't either would replace DVD.
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Super XP Warner has gone on record saying they received no payoff... and you know what I didn't expect this from you... spitting fan boy propaganda, when Paramount/Dream Works was payed off to be HDDVD exclusive what did I do, I went and bought a player that day so learn from me and do as I do...
They simply stated they haven't received a check. There are numerous ways they could be financially compensated without ever receiving a check or payoff.
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I do believe them because that is the kind of pay off that will leak, just like it did within days with Paramount / Dream Works, and Warner wouldn't make such a blunt announcement as being no payoff if they were going to be exposed as lying... and let's be honest if HDDVD did not get Paramount/ Dream Works this war would have been over already they were dying and nothing has really helped them they have just stayed afloat, look at the sales for HDDVD discs there is hardly any difference, and some weeks it's even worse than it was a few months ago, and you know what 750,000 SAL's is not enough players in a year and a half to warrant staying with a brand name. Whether you think Warner should support a game console is up to you but Sony's game console and the next following it will have blu-ray too so it will never die out. Blu-ray has always been the wiser choice you just never saw that, but that's OK, it's your opinion, and I'm getting tired of people acting like blu-ray players are unaffordable. They're not when I bought a single disc DVD player in 1998 it was $450 and that was 10 years ago, I didn't think that was unaffordable and I don't now.

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I am a little confused why Warner said they would continue to support HD-DVD for another quarter and then pull the plug. That puts them in the position of spending resources supporting a format that they just torpedoed. That looks like self-sabotage to me. Paramount did it the right way.

Warner is still being weenies. They want to hold out a little longer to see if those stand-alone players start to make progress, and leave themselves a back door in case they do.
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I am a little confused why Warner said they would continue to support HD-DVD for another quarter and then pull the plug. That puts them in the position of spending resources supporting a format that they just torpedoed. That looks like self-sabotage to me. Paramount did it the right way.

Warner is still being weenies. They want to hold out a little longer to see if those stand-alone players start to make progress, and leave themselves a back door in case they do.
WB has a contract with the HD DVD PG. That contract appears to end at the end of May.
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WB has a contract with the HD DVD PG. That contract appears to end at the end of May.
That does not end my confusion. They are stuck supporting HD-DVD, and they just sabotaged their market potential. So why the announcement now?
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That does not end my confusion. They are stuck supporting HD-DVD, and they just sabotaged their market potential. So why the announcement now?
That IMO was the BDA trying to make the CES show their foundation for 2008. They knew the HD DVD PG would cancel their meeting.

OBTW - wait till you see the prices of the new BD players announced at CES
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I am a little confused why Warner said they would continue to support HD-DVD for another quarter and then pull the plug. That puts them in the position of spending resources supporting a format that they just torpedoed. That looks like self-sabotage to me. Paramount did it the right way.

Warner is still being weenies. They want to hold out a little longer to see if those stand-alone players start to make progress, and leave themselves a back door in case they do.
I believe WB may have a contract with HD-DVD until May 2008.
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A new format or a new way to watch movies? I wonder shulman, did you think HD DVD could've replaced DVD or is it just Blu-ray?
Do you honestly believe that BD is going to be in every home where an SD player is now? Are BD players going to reach the 39$ mark? Are they going to sell BDs for 15$ on a regualr basis?

I don't see that happening but I didn't see it happening with either format. I know lots of J6P's and understand their way of thinking. SD is just too cheap and "good enough" regardless of what us, the early adopters, think. J6P loves a bargain and they shop WM's bargain bin a lot!
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