High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource

Go Back   High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource >
Rules HDTV Forum Gallery LINK TO US! RSS - High Def Forum AddThis Feed Button AddThis Social Bookmark Button Groups

High Definition Media A place to discuss BD and UHD Content from physical and digital media

Why HD-DVD beats Blu-ray

Reply
AddThis Social Bookmark Button
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-26-2007, 08:07 AM   #1  
HD Addict
Thread Starter
 
Bleedgreen71's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Virginia
Age: 37
Posts: 1,151
Default Why HD-DVD beats Blu-ray

In interesting article in the San Jose Merucry News, supporting the HD-DVD format. Not any new info but a supportive article.

http://www.mercurynews.com/businessh...nclick_check=1
Bleedgreen71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 08:11 AM   #2  
Connoisseur of Fine Games
 
MikeRox's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom
Posts: 15,756
Default

There appear to be quite a few pro HD DVD articles of late.
MikeRox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 09:01 AM   #3  
Tom Baker (1974-1981)
 
Super XP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Toronto, ON. Canada
Posts: 5,988
Default

With all this positive HD DVD momentum I am sure their will be many more to come. Oh, the link requires a user name & password?
Super XP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 09:08 AM   #4  
What's AVS?
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 204
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super XP View Post
With all this positive HD DVD momentum I am sure their will be many more to come. Oh, the link requires a user name & password?
It shouldn't, I got to it just fine. The rabid Blue Backers are already commenting.
Hip Name Here is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 09:09 AM   #5  
Super Moderator
 
bruceames's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Novato, CA
Posts: 17,128
Default

Op, could you quote the article? One must have an account to read it.
bruceames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 09:11 AM   #6  
Tom Baker (1974-1981)
 
Super XP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Toronto, ON. Canada
Posts: 5,988
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceames View Post
Op, could you quote the article? One must have an account to read it.
Yes, that would be great.
Super XP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 09:17 AM   #7  
What's AVS?
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 204
Default

That's weird, I went to the story a few times with no login required, checked again and now it wants a login.
Hip Name Here is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 09:29 AM   #8  
HD Addict
Thread Starter
 
Bleedgreen71's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Virginia
Age: 37
Posts: 1,151
Default

I never used a login but here is the copy/paste:

Q&A: Why HD DVD beats Blu-ray
By Don Lindich
McClatchy Newspapers
Article Launched: 11/26/2007 01:38:22 AM PST



Q When you say your recommendation of HD DVD comes down to three things and list the three, I think you could actually distill it down to just No. 3. Your first reason, "Picture and sound quality is identical between formats," doesn't favor one over the other. No. 2, the lack of support for Blu-ray features in most current players, is also a non-issue unless you can tell me that HD DVD currently has features unavailable in any Blu-ray player. So, if I follow you correctly, the only advantage to HD DVD is lower initial cost, if one discounts the higher capacity and potential of Blu-ray discs. I read your print article and came to your blog in doing my own research to try to find the better unit/format, but was disappointed by what appears to be a personal dislike for Sony.

- Steven Kelly


A First of all, Blu-ray is a group of companies, and I have nothing against Sony - in fact I just bought their top TV and admire the many contributions they have made to the world of television, from pro users on down. I am not a Blu-ray fan, though, and do not deny or attempt to hide it. I have good reasons for feeling the way I do about HD DVD vs. Blu-ray.

In response to your statement, in fact I can tell you that HD DVD players have features that Blu-ray lacks - mandatory picture-in-picture decoders and Web interactivity.

With picture-in-picture you can open a second video stream with features such as director's commentary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Advertisement

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
and behind-the-scenes looks at how the action sequences were made while you watch the scene unfold in the main picture. With Web interactivity you can connect your HD DVD player to an Ethernet Web connection and download fresh content to enhance your discs. To see an interactivity demo, check out TheLookAndSoundOfPerfect.com.
Blu-ray is just now announcing stand-alone players that can do picture-in-picture, and that is a lone model from Panasonic. The promised Web interactivity, BD-Live, is not available on any Blu-ray players, though they are working on it. Others are starting to speak up about this situation. Clint DeBoer, editor in chief for Audioholics.com., had this to say on his blog, avrant.com.:

"HD DVD is a completed spec, Blu-ray is a 'we're not done yet, gimme just a few more months and maybe we'll get it completed' spec. Let me repeat that: Blu-ray does NOT offer the same features as HD DVD and the HD DVD features have been ready since Day 1. There is currently no player on the market (as of this writing, though they are coming out prior to the holidays) that handles dual stream video and BD profile 1.1. For some odd reason the TV commercials don't tell you this."

Blu-ray can certainly deliver a wonderful experience, and I don't want anyone to think otherwise - as I said, both formats have terrific video and sound quality. You can get a lot more for your money elsewhere, though. HD DVD's advanced features, completely affordable cost, and that it is a complete specification that every player supports make it is a very easy recommendation for me. In my eyes, these strong advantages far outweigh Blu-ray's extra disc space. To its credit Blu-ray's additional capacity does provide more opportunities to use better sounding audio tracks (lossless compression), but few people have systems that can reveal the differences, and even then they would be minor if the track is well done. As it is, plenty of HD DVDs have lossless audio tracks, the extra space needed only for long movies fit onto a single disc.
Bleedgreen71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 01:36 PM   #9  
Former Super Moderator - RIP
 
PFC5's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mass
Posts: 38,290
Default

I said it before, and I will say it again. BD is not a format I can recommend to anyone without making sure they understand about the profiles and what they could be missing down the road if they buy now.

I am glad that the news media is FINALLY bringing this BD profile issue to light. Maybe it will force the BD companies to finally finish the spec and get the finished product out at a reasonable price. They do not seem to be in too much of a hurry and it appears by stalling coming out with profile 2.0 players they can resell profile 1.1 players after they recover the R&D on the 1.0 players and also keep the player prices unnaturally high under the guise of adding features that HD DVD has had from DAY ONE for less than half the price.
PFC5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 04:15 PM   #10  
High Definition is the definition of life.
 
Hitachi65SWX20B's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Hockeytown, Detroit
Posts: 2,092
Default

let me give it a try with a new link
http://www.mercurynews.com/businessh...nclick_check=1
Hitachi65SWX20B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 04:22 PM   #11  
HD Addict
Thread Starter
 
Bleedgreen71's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Virginia
Age: 37
Posts: 1,151
Default

that link asked me to login, as does my old one in the OP
Bleedgreen71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 09:40 PM   #12  
High Definition is the definition of life.
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Florida
Age: 48
Posts: 432
Default

The price seems to be what was holding HD-DVD back for a lot of people, and now that barrier is gone.
DKwhite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2007, 09:47 PM   #13  
High Definition is the definition of life.
 
daleb's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Clovis, CA
Posts: 7,654
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DKwhite View Post
The price seems to be what was holding HD-DVD back for a lot of people, and now that barrier is gone.
If you mean compared with standard DVD players I could not agree more. HD DVD is very competitive now and continues to be less expensive than BD, though the gap is slowly closing.
daleb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2007, 01:48 AM   #14  
Tom Baker (1974-1981)
 
Super XP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Toronto, ON. Canada
Posts: 5,988
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DKwhite View Post
The price seems to be what was holding HD-DVD back for a lot of people, and now that barrier is gone.
I am really hoping for a HD DVD victory. That would really help with the mass confusion IMO.
Super XP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2007, 03:57 AM   #15  
Every day is Friday
 
oblioman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Hooooterville
Posts: 9,279
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super XP View Post
I am really hoping for a HD DVD victory. That would really help with the mass confusion IMO.
The biggest problem Hd DVD is facing is lack of content. The WalMarts & Targets in me area have doubled the amount of disc's available in BD vs HD DVD. Me lass and meself use BD for burning purposes and watch a few movies from me PC, and have our A2 solid bound in our home center. This past weekend we went to purchase a new HD DVD movie (the lass likes the simplicity of the SA player vs me computer). We were both shocked as to the amount of movies available in BD vs HD DVD since our last visit (about a month ago). Sure one can look at NetFlix or a rental service - but for new releases, we wish to purchase the disc. Me lass was a bit dismayed, and now wants to purchase a SA BD player to replace me A2. Anybody know a good hypnotist so that me can convince her that the A2 is good enough? and that the Hd DVD movies will come?
oblioman is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Go Back   High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource >
AddThis Social Bookmark Button
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


to Why HD-DVD beats Blu-ray
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Blu-ray hardware not big retail driver Lee Stewart High Definition Media 216 05-30-2009 01:48 PM
It's looking much better for HD DVD Studio Support High Definition Media 190 11-04-2008 01:37 PM
Toshiba Reaffirms Blu-ray Stance Lee Stewart High Definition Media 176 09-23-2008 08:55 PM
Letter to Toshiba: To beat out Blu-Ray completely this is what should be done! Studio Support High Definition Media 69 01-31-2008 08:37 AM
Getting a hd dvd on blu ray oleviarules The High Definition Lounge 10 11-27-2007 08:51 PM
Wow, got banned again from Blu-ray.com hmurchison High Definition Media 208 11-02-2007 02:59 PM
-- "Do Not Buy A Blu-Ray Player" MidnightWatche Blu-Ray and Ultra HD Blu-Ray Players 80 04-14-2007 02:12 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:57 PM.



Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004 - 2018, MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands