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Old 08-25-2007, 11:48 AM   #1  
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HDDVD has:
Universal
Paramount
Dreamworks
Warner
New Line Cinema
Weinstein
$200- 300.

Blu Ray has:
Sony
Fox
Disney
Warner ( 2/3 of HD titles for the time being)
New Line ( for the time being)
Lionsgate
$500- 800.

A year ago Sony just came out with their new HD movie player. It was gonna be the best. It had the best picture. The best sound, the most disk capacity. It even had the most studio support. It was incredible. The only catch was.... the price. Its "discraceful competitor could only broadcast 1080i, and had only one exclusive supporter. Sony looked like they would finally win a format war.

One year later... All of Sonys promises are gone. Now both formats broadcast in 1080p. HDDVD has more Dolby TrueHD titles than Blu Ray does. No disk has come close to 30 gigs let alone 50, Blu doesn't have the advantage. Sony had lost studio support that HD has gained, and the PS3 had sold terribly in America loosing sales to the Nintendo Wii 8:1. And it appears that Time Warner is coming close to pulling the plug on Sony.

This is the funny thing. After Sony promised all its fans that they would have the best if they dished out the cash, they didn't fight back at all. Blu Ray has done nothing to win support. Right now it seems like they don't need to. They have got die hard fans willing to sink with the ship if Blu Ray doesnt prevail. These fans have been brainwashed. They are fighting for a company that isn't true to them. Sony does nothing for you. They make you invest on brand new technolgy as the first and loyal, then they wave the white flag, boast about how many more units they've sold than HD DVD, take your money, and run.

Toshiba has been the best investment I have ever seen. Most companies would have thrown in the towel by now, but no. Toshiba is better than that. They go out is spend 150 million dollars on a exclusive rights to a studio just to keep the followers happy. This wasn't a good financial move for them. They really dont get that much back right now. They do however please their customers and let us know that we they are here and they mean buisness. Toshiba is going to win this war.

Sony guys are still walking around sayin, "we still got more studio support". But really no. Disney. They have made three movies. Pirates and Bridge to Terebithia. Fox isnt making any must have movies. Sony is the biggest gun right now, but thats just because they make their movies popular with money. Toshiba has support from the three biggest HD studios. Universal, Paramount and Warer Bros. Exclusive support from the first two and more support from Warner. Many of the Blu Ray fanboys come on these threads and give the what if? What if Universal switches sides? They wont. They aren't just gonna fall down dead and switch sides. HD has huge amounts of studio support that Blu Ray just cant keep up with. Its not because its impossible. Its becaue they dont care about winning.

But still today, people are walking in stores giving up $500 to get a Blu Ray player. You are actually spending money to loose studio support!!! HDDVD will win. They will win because they show that they care about winning, and winning the old fashinioned way. By shooting the most bullets and taking the most punches.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:24 PM   #2  
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now when this war started i was a true sony fan planning on gettin a blu ray player i realy was but what held me back was the price and the pq. now hd dvd i had no plans to invest in the format because of the prices and pq also until i started researching more. meaning i compared pq and aq every time i went to either bb.cc, or even tweeter,now my thing is these so call sale reps know the deal. when hd dvd first launched last year me and my wife were at bb they had it hooked up to a westinghouse 42 inch lcd tv they were playing batman begins anyone remeber? that the picture was so great on a low end tv i was like in denial and my exact words were my upconverter looks better than that i was realy tryin to bullshit my selve.but a couple of weeks later blu ray was launched and once again me and the wifey went to bb to check it out they had a blu ray promo video playin and my wife told me that day ill never forget it. she said the player thats playin batman begins looks better than blu ray, and she was right so i made my mind up she was right my plan was to get a hd dvd player first then get a blu ray player but i was still going to wait.so this summer of may 2007 i took my first and only step and invested my money in the hd a2. now my plans were to invest in blu ray before fall but paramount made that move and i think something is up.i'll see what happens this holiday season before i make any more moves
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now when this war started i was a true sony fan planning on gettin a blu ray player i realy was but what held me back was the price and the pq. now hd dvd i had no plans to invest in the format because of the prices and pq also until i started researching more. meaning i compared pq and aq every time i went to either bb.cc, or even tweeter,now my thing is these so call sale reps know the deal. when hd dvd first launched last year me and my wife were at bb they had it hooked up to a westinghouse 42 inch lcd tv they were playing batman begins anyone remeber? that the picture was so great on a low end tv i was like in denial and my exact words were my upconverter looks better than that i was realy tryin to bullshit my selve.but a couple of weeks later blu ray was launched and once again me and the wifey went to bb to check it out they had a blu ray promo video playin and my wife told me that day ill never forget it. she said the player thats playin batman begins looks better than blu ray, and she was right so i made my mind up she was right my plan was to get a hd dvd player first then get a blu ray player but i was still going to wait.so this summer of may 2007 i took my first and only step and invested my money in the hd a2. now my plans were to invest in blu ray before fall but paramount made that move and i think something is up.i'll see what happens this holiday season before i make any more moves
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:57 PM   #4  
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Not yet. when they come down another $100 or $200 I'll buy one. I'd likely have bought one buy now if not for putting my budget into the XA2 instead.

In another angle, I won't ever buy a combo player, I like seperate components for everything like that. If one craps out, I have another in the down time !

I personally don't see much difference, other than price. That's the factor for most, regardless of all the BS spread about !

That's my two discs worth !!


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There's too many movies coming out from Columbia that are just too good to pass on. But for now I just own an xbox hd-dvd player.
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Sony also has
MGM
Miramax
Starz
and from what I understand Weinstein is blu-ray exclusive now. Let's be honest people who own blu-ray only still have completely nothing to worry about they still have much more studio support and are the primary selling Hd format for now, but that could change.

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Sony also has
MGM
Miramax
Starz
and from what I understand Weinstein is blu-ray exclusive now. Let's be honest people who own blu-ray only still have completely nothing to worry about they still have much more studio support and are the primary selling Hd format for now, but that could change.
Nope. Still HD DVD Exclusive.

But you did forget Liongate for the BD side . . . for now
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But you did forget Liongate for the BD side . . . for now
Lionsgate was in OP, so that's why he didn't add it.
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I've never heard "taking the most punches" as being a surefire method of winning anything.
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No I would not buy a BR player to expensive and no real advantage over HD DVD and I will not support SONY.

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I will never support SONY, so that is out of the question, and HD DVD is what I would support. It's DVDís on steroids & it's a stable proven technology. HD DVD all the way.

Plus I like Paramount movies & the Star Trek series.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:42 PM   #14  
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Yes I still see discs on both format I want. So duel it is.
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I will buy it when it has profile 2.0 and HDMI 1.3. What is the point of buying a Blu-Ray player if it doesn't have those? Oh yeah and the price also has to be reasonable.
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