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Old 07-26-2007, 11:19 AM   #106  
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Digital = 4000x2000 . . . . Film = 2000x800 . . .which looks smaller? Thats like comparing the amperage of a 12 volt source to the amperage of a 120 volt source.
You convert the 12V and 120V devices into "watts" and thus can compare their relative power consumption. Likewise: You can convert "linepairs" to "lines" to "pixels" (or vice-versa), and then compare them to one another.

Take DVD: 720 pixels across.

That means it can display 720 alternating black/white lines, or 360 lines-pairs, from one edge of the screen to the other edge of the screen (if the lines match-up perfectly with the pixels.) That's how you do the conversion. Extremely easy.



In reality the lines do NOT match-up perfectly and thus aliasing occurs... but I'm just working with the ideal for now, in an attempt to help you understand.
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But your math doesn't match the facts as stated in the study.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:57 AM   #108  
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I guess you didn't see this post:

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Ahhh, you're right. I didn't see that because he was discussing "projecting the film in front of an audience" and then suddenly started listing specs. I thought he was still discussing the projection test.

I see (from the graph) that actual projected measurement is HALF the measurement on the negative..... or approximately 106 lines/mm.


Thus the revised numbers would be:
35mm = 24mm wide * 106 == ~2500 lines edge-to-edge
70mm = 49mm wide * 106 == ~5,000 lines """
Cinema 4K = 4096 * 0.7 antialiasing == ~2867 lines """

So Cinema 4K is about equal to 35mm, but not as good as 70mm.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:35 PM   #109  
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Lee and Troy, you guys are hopeless. I see neither of you is going to let facts get in the way of a good argument.

Can I redirect? The original question in the thread is when the end of theaters will come, presumably because of the quality of what we can see at home with BD and HD DVD. We can more or less recreate the theatre viewing & listening experience at home, especially with 1080p digital (or good-'ol CRT!) front-screen projectors in a purpose built home theater (which not everyone can afford).

My opinion? It's got little to do with the number of pixels on the screen. It's a social experience, so some people go even when the image is fairly bad (as it is at quite a few cineplexes). The people who don't go now don't go _because_ of the social factors and results of same: noisy patrons, cell phones, sticky floors, high price of snack food, etc. I believe it'll take more than a sharper picture to get these people back (however sharper it can be, with however many pixels you think that takes). Elimination of the bad aspects I listed would help for a start, but then you need something unique. 3D films are good. Live (or prerecorded live) events are also good. Live/prerecorded-live events in 3D are even better. Believe it or not _opera_ in HD at digital theaters is proving a big draw. Not my cup of tea but it proves my point.

You may now continue your previously scheduled argument.
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No no...argument over...please!
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"Socialization" didn't keep Game arcades or Movie Drive-ins open. Why? Because people can socialize at home in their living rooms (invite the family and friends over to watch the latest Bluray/HD-DVD on a giant screen).

Rising gas prices won't help either. Who's going to want to go driving-around in the year 2020 when gas cost $10 a gallon?
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"Socialization" didn't keep Game arcades or Movie Drive-ins open. Why? Because people can socialize at home in their living rooms (invite the family and friends over to watch the latest Bluray/HD-DVD on a giant screen).

Rising gas prices won't help either. Who's going to want to go driving-around in the year 2020 when gas cost $10 a gallon?
You just can't let this thread die, can you? We have hashed this out already. Our "giant screens" are no match for a 40 foot wide screen. What is wrong with getting out of the house? Dinner and a movie is a great American (others?) staple. I, for one, still enjoy it. I hope they never go away.

How much gas does it cost for your friends to drive from across town to come to your house to watch a movie on your "giant screen" of 40"-60"?
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"Socialization" didn't keep Game arcades or Movie Drive-ins open. Why? Because people can socialize at home in their living rooms (invite the family and friends over to watch the latest Bluray/HD-DVD on a giant screen).

Rising gas prices won't help either. Who's going to want to go driving-around in the year 2020 when gas cost $10 a gallon?
Troy - you are reaching new heights of FUD. It is really beyond belief. The arcades closed because gaming went to a whole new level for the home and Drive In's closed because most were only open 6 months of the year and when the Regan years came - the land became more valauable then the business.

So Troy . . . this ones for you!

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LOL.. just to show you how outdated going the movies are, I am going to meet up with a few friends to watch the Adam Sandler flick, before they close down the theaters!!
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This thread is now officially closed with the general consensus that movie theaters aren't going away any time soon. I know, I know...
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Well.

I have to admit meeting friends at the local theater is fun. The mall at White Marsh Maryland is an "open air" mall which feels great in the cool summer evenings. And you can drink fresh homemade beer, and eat freshly-burned cow, under the shade of a restaurant awning.
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troy, please let these threads die. There was no need to bring them back up.
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Stew:

You're not the father of me. I'll do as I please. If you want the thread to die, then YOU stop responding. Nobody's forcing your to either read or write responses, if you have no interest in the thread.

So mind your own actions (remove the splinter from your own eye).
And let me run my own life.
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welcome to the iggy club. You post non-sense and start crap, enflame others as you always have.. see ya
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And YOU are close-minded, demanding
that everyone think as you think
(like a damn bible-thumper).

I refuse.

I have my OWN mind and I will think, believe, do as my mind tells me to do.
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