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Old 07-12-2012, 06:48 PM   #46
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Movies should be $8. $20-30 is horrendously overpriced. This really shows how ridiculous the margins are for home video.

Also. If blu ray was a niche product theres no way you'd have any movies this cheap. Glad its been able to reach almost DVD level pricing which alot of people were worried it wasnt gonna be able to do(something about manufacturing and authoring costs lol)
Very true back in the laserdisc days they were pricing them very high. Sometimes would pay $80 to $100 for one title.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:02 PM   #47
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Thats what I was thinking earlier when I posed the question about what people thought the prices should be. $7.88 is pretty darn low.
I think prices should be relative to rentals. If the movie costs more than around 5x it costs to rent.. then its overpriced. This worked out when rentals were $4-5. Now that we have redbox and netflix..

Lately Ive only been buying movies from Amazon sales. I bought Jurassic Park Trilogy for $21. And 2 seasons of Battle Star Galactica for $17.99 each, Spartacus S2 for $17.99.
BestBuys 'side rack deals' are also great. Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan for $10.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:10 PM   #48
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I think prices should be relative to rentals. If the movie costs more than around 5x it costs to rent.. then its overpriced. This worked out when rentals were $4-5. Now that we have redbox and netflix..

Lately Ive only been buying movies from Amazon sales. ' I bought Jurassic Park Trilogy for $21. And 2 seasons of Battle Star Galactica for $17.99 each, Spartacus S2 for $17.99.
BestBuys 'side rack deals' are also great. Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan for $10.
I just bought the Alien box set along with the Xmen box set. Love the sales!
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:58 PM   #49
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Personally I've always felt that new releases are priced about right. I had previously thought catalogs were a little too high, especially at Best Buy and other B&Ms with small discounts off SRP (usually $5.00).

Overall though I would have to say I am surprised at how fast catalog prices have fallen. That's good for consumers but not so much for the studios. And it's not only the prevailing price of catalogs, it's the rate of depreciation as well. As Rizzo said, stuff that depreciates fast is not selling very well. And although Walmart is a high profile "clearing house" for these underperforming movies, it seems these same movies mostly remain in their bargain bin for quite a while, so there must be a bunch of them to get rid of.

I would prefer that prevailing prices remain as low as possible without discouraging studios from digging deeper into their vault. Whatever that "sweet spot" may be, making both consumer happy and ensuring the health of the format. As they are now, I think they're on the low side as far as the studios are concerned. New release prices are fine though.
Thank you. I don't think HD Goofnut understands the difference. Going for $20 to $8 is embarrassing.
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The studio already had made its money by the time its on the shelves and its retailers that set the consumer pricing for the best point they can to meet their goals.
If that's the case, why is nearly every big studio licensing out titles to small studios? If, according to your line of reasoning, they just have to press the disc and by the time it hits retail BOOM - PROFIT - seems absurd they wouldn't release more titles.

But most people can see through your little statement for what it is.
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Thank you. I don't think HD Goofnut understands the difference. Going for $20 to $8 is embarrassing.
I understand that there is no satisfying you as this is your place to vent, but I suppose that's better than a pack or a bottle.
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I understand that there is no satisfying you as this is your place to vent, but I suppose that's better than a pack or a bottle.
Do you even bother discussing things or just try to be witty?
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Movies should be $8. $20-30 is horrendously overpriced. This really shows how ridiculous the margins are for home video.

Also. If blu ray was a niche product theres no way you'd have any movies this cheap. Glad its been able to reach almost DVD level pricing which alot of people were worried it wasnt gonna be able to do(something about manufacturing and authoring costs lol)
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Very true back in the laserdisc days they were pricing them very high. Sometimes would pay $80 to $100 for one title.
Really? Because from what I remember at DVDs peak? Prices were never that low until they were not selling anymore. Then prices dove to get people to buy. Sorry but I don't think these prices mean Bluray is mainstream at all. In fact I think it shows just how weak the market is for the product. Hell Bluray hasn't even passed 3 billion in sell through and we are seeing titles less than a year old going for $7.88?! How can anyone say that is a good sign for the studios or Bluray? Yes it's great for the consumer. But this make me think there are not many of them out there if we are seeing this already.
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I would prefer that prevailing prices remain as low as possible without discouraging studios from digging deeper into their vault. Whatever that "sweet spot" may be, making both consumer happy and ensuring the health of the format. As they are now, I think they're on the low side as far as the studios are concerned. New release prices are fine though.
This reasoning just boggles the mind. The OP bought Reign of Fire for $7.88. Personally I dont think its worth much and its ludicrous to think it should be worth more.
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Really? Because from what I remember at DVDs peak? Prices were never that low until they were not selling anymore. Then prices dove to get people to buy. Sorry but I don't think these prices mean Bluray is mainstream at all. In fact I think it shows just how weak the market is for the product. Hell Bluray hasn't even passed 3 billion in sell through and we are seeing titles less than a year old going for $7.88?! How can anyone say that is a good sign for the studios or Bluray? Yes it's great for the consumer. But this make me think there are not many of them out there if we are seeing this already.
So youre saying DVDs were no longer selling when they got bargain bin prices? really?

Oh look. 2009, new DVDs available for pre-order. $10. Seems they preemptively priced Harry Potter low cause they thought it was only gonna sell like 2 copies. 3 at most.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010961?refCatId=13
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So youre saying DVDs were no longer selling when they got bargain bin prices? really?

Oh look. 2009, new DVDs available for pre-order. $10. Seems they preemptively priced Harry Potter low cause they thought it was only gonna sell like 2 copies. 3 at most.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010961?refCatId=13
You do realize these prices are not sales right? These are everyday prices. Oh and I loved reading your story.
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Studios seem to be downplaying the pricing deals, perceiving it as simple Web site turf wars rather than severe devaluation of the DVD category. Walmart and Target are most likely trying to drum up buzz for their Web sites, which represent a small fraction of their overall sales, according to studio sources.

Also comforting to studios, the extreme low price tags are expected to disappear at the chains by the time the titles street.

"This is a straight pre-order promotion, and online reprsents a small part of their business," said one studio executive. "They're trying to get more people to shop at the [sites]."

The executive added that the $10 pre-order campaign may help retail estimate consumer demand early to avoid the nuisance of heavy stock returns.
Here you go Gizmo. Nice little gem at the end for you. Studio exec admitting that there are heavy stock returns. And that's for the much better selling DVD. But I guess we are to believe that Bluray is exempt from this happening?
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You do realize these prices are not sales right? These are everyday prices.
Which further disproves your point.
Try again.

Can you imagine the reaction from this forum if a new release blu ray was available for $10?
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So youre saying DVDs were no longer selling when they got bargain bin prices? really?
Yep - that's what he's saying. By the end of 2009, DVD had lost $7 BILLION from it's height just a few years previously.

Of course you are speaking figuratively and not literally for that would be a foolish statement if there ever was one.

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Oh look. 2009, new DVDs available for pre-order. $10. Seems they preemptively priced Harry Potter low cause they thought it was only gonna sell like 2 copies. 3 at most.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010961?refCatId=13
When demand for your product goes in the toilet, you fire sale out the product to get people to buy it. Business 101.
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This reasoning just boggles the mind. The OP bought Reign of Fire for $7.88. Personally I dont think its worth much and its ludicrous to think it should be worth more.
So movies should be priced based on your personal taste. Got it.
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Do you even bother discussing things or just try to be witty?
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