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Old 07-12-2012, 02:21 PM   #31
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Of course people complained about high prices. I don't remember any of you guys disagreeing with that. I thought we all agreed that it would be better for prices to drop for Bluray. But that was a broad statement that included discs and players. We are talking about newer, better titles selling for 7.88. Now the other Guys and Tropic Thunder are catalog? Those are somewhat newer titles. I don't think anyone ever thought any Bluray titles should be selling at under 8 bucks. Except for crap titles like 10.0 mega quake. Stuff like that.

Bottom line is if Walmart thinks this is the price to see these titles they are probably not selling well like Rizz said. I'd agree with that. It's still shocking to see THESE titles at those prices. I bet some of these same titles are more than 20 bucks at Best Buy. And I bet those titles sit collecting dust there too. Dispite some trying to convince me Best Buy sells through their stock all the time.
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There is an obvious difference from gracefully falling prices to firesale prices.
Geez, what do you want? If someone gave you and every other soul in the world every BD in the world on a gold, silver, and platinum platter and you'd still b!tch.
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Of course people complained about high prices. I don't remember any of you guys disagreeing with that. I thought we all agreed that it would be better for prices to drop for Bluray. But that was a broad statement that included discs and players. We are talking about newer, better titles selling for 7.88. Now the other Guys and Tropic Thunder are catalog? Those are somewhat newer titles. I don't think anyone ever thought any Bluray titles should be selling at under 8 bucks. Except for crap titles like 10.0 mega quake. Stuff like that.

Bottom line is if Walmart thinks this is the price to see these titles they are probably not selling well like Rizz said. I'd agree with that. It's still shocking to see THESE titles at those prices. I bet some of these same titles are more than 20 bucks at Best Buy. And I bet those titles sit collecting dust there too. Dispite some trying to convince me Best Buy sells through their stock all the time.
I was never in awe of Best Buys disc prices even when on SPECIAL offers, their no big deal, Amazon has great pricing and price guarantee's here is another site W/ great pricing and all necessary info.http://www.blu-ray.com/
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:04 PM   #34
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Geez, what do you want? If someone gave you and every other soul in the world every BD in the world on a gold, silver, and platinum platter and you'd still b!tch.
That's an unfair response to Gizmo's post. Because he's right. There is a difference. I don't think prices have fallen in a natural way for a Supposibly well selling product. I think the CEs and studios are being forced to drop prices a lot quicker than they wanted to because of poor sales. That includes the fact that they saw no sign of Bluray making up DVDs losses. That's what Gizmo is saying. Your response is off the wall. It comes off like you know he's right and you don't want to hear it. So attack!!
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I was never in awe of Best Buys disc prices even when on SPECIAL offers, their no big deal Amazon is great pricing and price guarantee's here is another site W/ great pricing and all necessary info.http://www.blu-ray.com/
I agree. But at one time BB was the biggest retailer. So those were the prices a lot of consumers were exposed to. That gave the impression that Bluray is a premium product. For someone to go into Walmart or log onto Amazon and see those prices? I'm guessing I'm not the only one that would be shocked and suprised.
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I agree. But at one time BB was the biggest retailer. So those were the prices a lot of consumers were exposed to. That gave the impression that Bluray is a premium product. For someone to go into Walmart or log onto Amazon and see those prices? I'm guessing I'm not the only one that would be shocked and suprised.
I'm not familiar with your location but in NY and the surrounding 3 states NY/NJ/PA/ here was always BM competition like Circuit City/6th Ave Elec. so there was always sales going on especially date of release disc.
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I'm not familiar with your location but in NY and the surrounding 3 states NY/NJ/PA/ here was always BM competition like Circuit City/6th Ave Elec. so there was always sales going on especially date of release disc.
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Personally I've always felt that new releases are priced about right. I had previously thought catalogs were a little too high, especially at Best Buy and other B&Ms with small discounts off SRP (usually $5.00).

Overall though I would have to say I am surprised at how fast catalog prices have fallen. That's good for consumers but not so much for the studios. And it's not only the prevailing price of catalogs, it's the rate of depreciation as well. As Rizzo said, stuff that depreciates fast is not selling very well. And although Walmart is a high profile "clearing house" for these underperforming movies, it seems these same movies mostly remain in their bargain bin for quite a while, so there must be a bunch of them to get rid of.

I would prefer that prevailing prices remain as low as possible without discouraging studios from digging deeper into their vault. Whatever that "sweet spot" may be, making both consumer happy and ensuring the health of the format. As they are now, I think they're on the low side as far as the studios are concerned. New release prices are fine though.
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Personally I've always felt that new releases are priced about right. I had previously thought catalogs were a little too high, especially at Best Buy and other B&Ms with small discounts off SRP (usually $5.00).

Overall though I would have to say I am surprised at how fast catalog prices have fallen. That's good for consumers but not so much for the studios. And it's not only the prevailing price of catalogs, it's the rate of depreciation as well. As Rizzo said, stuff that depreciates fast is not selling very well. And although Walmart is a high profile "clearing house" for these underperforming movies, it seems these same movies mostly remain in their bargain bin for quite a while, so there must be a bunch of them to get rid of.

I would prefer that prevailing prices remain as low as possible without discouraging studios from digging deeper into their vault. Whatever that "sweet spot" may be, making both consumer happy and ensuring the health of the format. As they are now, I think they're on the low side as far as the studios are concerned. New release prices are fine though.
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That's true, if you're not interested in the 2D BD bundled in the SKU.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:24 PM   #41
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Personally I've always felt that new releases are priced about right. I had previously thought catalogs were a little too high, especially at Best Buy and other B&Ms with small discounts off SRP (usually $5.00).

Overall though I would have to say I am surprised at how fast catalog prices have fallen. That's good for consumers but not so much for the studios. And it's not only the prevailing price of catalogs, it's the rate of depreciation as well. As Rizzo said, stuff that depreciates fast is not selling very well. And although Walmart is a high profile "clearing house" for these underperforming movies, it seems these same movies mostly remain in their bargain bin for quite a while, so there must be a bunch of them to get rid of.

I would prefer that prevailing prices remain as low as possible without discouraging studios from digging deeper into their vault. Whatever that "sweet spot" may be, making both consumer happy and ensuring the health of the format. As they are now, I think they're on the low side as far as the studios are concerned. New release prices are fine though.
I agree. I always thought that right around 20 bucks was probably a fair price IMO for a new release Bluray. 10-12 bucks for a catalog title seemed about right. $7.88 is almost half of that! Now I would not have been sooo shocked if the titles at this price were crap titles. But these were newer movies that were pretty well known with well liked actors.

Tropic Thunder for example. Great cast. Funny movie. Not very old. $7.88?! I paid over 20 bucks for that movie on Bluray. Seeing these prices will really make me think twice before buying another Bluray title. Those defending these prices are in denial if the don't think this doesn't look good for Bluray.
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That's true, if you're not interested in the 2D BD bundled in the SKU.
You can check any retail source you want for 3D BDs - there are no "bargin basement prices" being offerred by any of them. That includes catalogs too.
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I agree. I always thought that right around 20 bucks was probably a fair price IMO for a new release Bluray. 10-12 bucks for a catalog title seemed about right. $7.88 is almost half of that! Now I would not have been sooo shocked if the titles at this price were crap titles. But these were newer movies that were pretty well known with well liked actors.
IMO - $17 is the "right price" for a new release - which is 2X the cost of the average theater ticket (2D) plus a little.

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Tropic Thunder for example. Great cast. Funny movie. Not very old. $7.88?! I paid over 20 bucks for that movie on Bluray. Seeing these prices will really make me think twice before buying another Bluray title. Those defending these prices are in denial if the don't think this doesn't look good for Bluray.
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Movies should be $8. $20-30 is horrendously overpriced. This really shows how ridiculous the margins are for home video.

Also. If blu ray was a niche product theres no way you'd have any movies this cheap. Glad its been able to reach almost DVD level pricing which alot of people were worried it wasnt gonna be able to do(something about manufacturing and authoring costs lol)
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I agree. I always thought that right around 20 bucks was probably a fair price IMO for a new release Bluray. 10-12 bucks for a catalog title seemed about right. $7.88 is almost half of that! Now I would not have been sooo shocked if the titles at this price were crap titles. But these were newer movies that were pretty well known with well liked actors.

Tropic Thunder for example. Great cast. Funny movie. Not very old. $7.88?! I paid over 20 bucks for that movie on Bluray. Seeing these prices will really make me think twice before buying another Bluray title. Those defending these prices are in denial if the don't think this doesn't look good for Bluray.
Thats what I was thinking earlier when I posed the question about what people thought the prices should be. $7.88 is pretty darn low.
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