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Old 07-21-2012, 10:05 AM   #136
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Furthermore the mere existence of the Blu-ray have devalued the DVDs a lot faster than it otherwise would have depreciated on its own.


I would have thought the mere existence of the bluray would put a "ceiling" on the price of the dvd version. If bluray/hd-dvd had never existed, such a price ceiling would be entirely absent.
That's true. They devalue each other, the DVDs by being obsoleted and the Blu-rays from subsequent price drop pressure from the DVD. And of course the two combined in the market adds to the saturation which helps to devalue both.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:16 AM   #137
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That's true. They devalue each other, the DVDs by being obsoleted and the Blu-rays from subsequent price drop pressure from the DVD. And of course the two combined in the market adds to the saturation which helps to devalue both.
Like a feedbacking system, in a downward spiral.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:51 AM   #138
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Like a feedbacking system, in a downward spiral.
That's about right. Great for the consumer though, even if the studios aren't laughing. But then they shouldn't complain, they've already made a ton from milking catalog. Probably more than they ever dreamed possible 30 years ago when home video was in its infancy.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:52 AM   #139
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I can get the "good" Superman films (1, 2 and Returns) for $13 at Target or 1,2,3,4 and Returns for $60 in a boxset. Hm...which would I get...
More generally, it seems like some movie companies are not releasing some titles on bluray individually and separate, but only bundling them in a multidisk package or making them exclusives.

What I had in mind were multi-movie packages like:

- Superman (3, 4, and the Richard Lester cut of 2)
- Robocop (3 was a BB exclusive for region A)
- Lethal Weapon (3 and 4 for region A)
- Starship Troopers (2)
- original Star Trek movies (1, 3, 5 for region A)
- The Next Generation Star Trek movies (7, 9, 10 for region A).

In the parentheses () are the titles which were not released separately or were exclusives for region A. (Star Trek 3 was released in a region A three-disc pack which had 2, 3 and 4).

For some titles (such as the Star Trek ones), I can understand why they didn't bother releasing them individually.


It seems like for some "weaker" titles, they don't have much confidence in the blurays selling individually on their own, especially if they insist on only bundling them with some "stronger" titles.

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Just saw Sucker Punch and Watchmen at Costco for $7.99! They also had Blade which is a bit older. But I'm shocked at the first two at those prices. Talk about no legs on Bluray!
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Just saw Sucker Punch and Watchmen at Costco for $7.99! They also had Blade which is a bit older. But I'm shocked at the first two at those prices. Talk about no legs on Bluray!
Sucker Punch bombed at the theater:

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=suckerpunch.htm
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Just saw Sucker Punch and Watchmen at Costco for $7.99! They also had Blade which is a bit older. But I'm shocked at the first two at those prices. Talk about no legs on Bluray!
As stated Sucker punch was a loser and Watchman has exceeded it's saleability period anyone who wanted it already bought it (released 7/09) what your seeing is overstock and "dead" titles. Blade was released in '98 these are "dead" titles.
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As stated Sucker punch was a loser and Watchman has exceeded it's saleability period anyone who wanted it already bought it (released 7/09) what your seeing is overstock and "dead" titles. Blade was released in '98 these are "dead" titles.
But BD PBD adoption in the USA has only reached approx 35% (if that). Maybe it's a case of retailers having less faith in any large adoption % happening any time soon.
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Just saw Sucker Punch and Watchmen at Costco for $7.99!
I've seen Watchmen hovering around the $8 to $10 range over the last 6-7 months or so, at several places like WalMart, Costco, etc ...

Haven't really watched the price of Sucker Punch or Blade that closely.
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IMO $8 for Sucker Punch is $7.50 too much. Man what a stinker.
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The visuals in Sucker Punch are pretty incredible. It wasn't too bad for what it is. Great reference material IMO. I would have thought the PS3 crowd would have gobbled it up! . I am just suprised at the prices I guess. Maybe because I thought Bluray still has so far to go. Especially seeing it appears to be peaking soon. Hard to imagine catalog this cheap at this stage of a newer formats life.
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But BD PBD adoption in the USA has only reached approx 35% (if that). Maybe it's a case of retailers having less faith in any large adoption % happening any time soon.
Ya that was my point. I didn't expect prices this low at this point. Great for us though. Bad sign for the format IMO though.
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The visuals in Sucker Punch are pretty incredible. It wasn't too bad for what it is. Great reference material IMO. I would have thought the PS3 crowd would have gobbled it up! . I am just suprised at the prices I guess. Maybe because I thought Bluray still has so far to go. Especially seeing it appears to be peaking soon. Hard to imagine catalog this cheap at this stage of a newer formats life.
I see where you are coming from but crap is crap no matter how pretty you make it. As far as my PS3 goes it only gets used for games and Amazon Instant Video. Hardly buy BD at all now. I just rent and when I do I use a stand alone player.
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Ya that was my point. I didn't expect prices this low at this point. Great for us though. Bad sign for the format IMO though.
I don't know if it's a bad sign, it may be that manufacturers are becoming more realistic with their pricing. When blurays first hit the streets hey were EXPENSIVE ...too expensive and are just now approaching realistic prices. What a lot of manufacturers are beginning to ship new disc in 4 or 5 disc sets that includes 3D disc / Bluray / Standard disc /digital copies and download links, to justify higher prices.
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As stated Sucker punch was a loser and Watchman has exceeded it's saleability period anyone who wanted it already bought it (released 7/09) what your seeing is overstock and "dead" titles. Blade was released in '98 these are "dead" titles.
Blade came out on Blu-ray just a few weeks ago.
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