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Old 05-20-2012, 03:08 PM   #16
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That's purely your biased assumptions.

What 2012 release would they try it for, The Muppets? War Horse? Bringing Down the House?

They did do it again in 2012 for Lady and the Tramp as they are always doing now for classic animation.

They would consider many variables including type of release, its performance and seasonality.

Plus you just want to ignore that there is lead time in any case between when their assessment would take place and new releases hitting the street.

Which is about the time here for that Warner is showing for this new release.
GMAB, Lady and the Tramp has been released on DVD at least a few times before. Delaying the DVD on catalog is a zero risk tactic. So don't try to use that as a smoke screen that Disney is "doing it again in 2012".
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GMAB, Lady and the Tramp has been released on DVD at least a few times before. Delaying the DVD on catalog is a zero risk tactic. So don't try to use that as a smoke screen that Disney is "doing it again in 2012".
I agree that because of the proven demonstrated success of delaying the DVD only versions of classic Disney animation titles that at this point its zero risk to Disney. Its clearly a different situation with day and date titles which so far they have done only with POTC4 and some niche titles like "African Cats".

They clearly make more money on releasing higher priced DVD+BD combos in multiple style case trims and skus and delay the DVD only release for classic animation. Just like the studios make more from combos overall. The only issue is how successful the one Disney day and date use with POTC4 was.

My point was its too early to tell how soon Disney will have a chance to try since they have had very few releases in 2012 and non that were action related. We already know that The Avengers will have a DVD version (with few extras) concurrent with Blu-ray+DVD and Blu-ray 3D combo versions so they are not going to use that strategy for that tent pole's September 25, 2012 release.

GMAB right back at you.

I did not state that "Lady and the Tramp" was an example of a day and date release with a DVD only delay. Its obviously not. I meant that they did do it again for classic animation titles.

I clearly said its a "classic animation" title. They are doing it in the same way they have done classic animation titles since Snow White.

They also clearly have not released a new day and date title in 2012 since we all know and everyone agrees they have not done any titles like that since POTC4. That was the entire issue we were talking about.

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What 2012 release would they try it for, The Muppets? War Horse? Bringing Down the House?
I clearly stated there was not an appropriate day and date new release so far in 2012 for them to do a DVD only delay

Then I clearly stated that they are continuing to do the same strategy with catalog new to Blu-ray "classic animation" which is by definition catalog from their library that has long since been released on DVD.

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They did do it again in 2012 for Lady and the Tramp as they are always doing now for classic animation.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:30 PM   #18
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You said "they did do it again in 2012" in response to what Gizmo was saying about new releases. This thread was about doing it on new releases. We all know that Disney does this routinely on catalog, so what? Other studios don't even bother to release a DVD version at all on catalog, they just do a combo and that's it (or just the BD).
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You said "they did do it again in 2012" in response to what Gizmo was saying about new releases. This thread was about doing it on new releases. We all know that Disney does this routinely on catalog, so what? Other studios don't even bother to release a DVD version at all on catalog, they just do a combo and that's it (or just the BD).
What the heck. I used "classic animation" in the same sentence where I said "they did do it again". What more do you want?

I am sorry it seemed unclear to you, I always try and be as precise as possible to avoid confusion.

I clearly knew that they had not done in in 2012 for a day and date title as that's what the last series of posts, this entire thread, is about. We all know Disney has not done it for a major day and date title since POTC4.

The very post you are citing makes note of that in my questioning of what title should Disney have done so.

I hardly disagree with that.
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Classic animation isn't new to DVD.

End of story.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:49 PM   #21
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Classic animation isn't new to DVD.

End of story.
No but those particular Disney classic animation titles are new to Blu-ray and those titles ever since Snow White in 2008 have been released with DVD only sku delays after their BD+DVD combo sku releases.
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In announcement news today, Warner Home Video has set Wrath of the Titans for 3D Blu-ray/Blu-ray/DVD/UltraViolet Combo Pack and Blu-ray/DVD/UltraViolet Combo Pack release on 6/26 (SRP $44.95 and $35.99). A DVD version will follow on 7/24 (SRP $22.97).
Blu-ray to be released on 6/26/2012 - the last week of the 2nd quarter.

Five weeks into the second quarter, blu-ray is down $40 million in 2nd Quarter revenue from last year. Which means that over the next 8 weeks, blu-ray needs to average more than $5 million more per week than last year, in order to achieve year over year growth for the quarter.
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Blu-ray to be released on 6/26/2012 - the last week of the 2nd quarter.

Five weeks into the second quarter, blu-ray is down $40 million in 2nd Quarter revenue from last year. Which means that over the next 8 weeks, blu-ray needs to average more than $5 million more per week than last year, in order to achieve year over year growth for the quarter.
Well, another scam release like POTC4 will certainly help artificially boost BD revue.
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Well, another scam release like POTC4 will certainly help artificially boost BD revue.
And that would definatly help Bluray in the consumer confidence area. God knows consumers are not going to invest in a format that shows signs of already dying a premature death. More smoke and mirrors?
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And that would definatly help Bluray in the consumer confidence area. God knows consumers are not going to invest in a format that shows signs of already dying a premature death. More smoke and mirrors?
Good point. Definitely something Blu-rays need a boost of these days with near-flatline growth. A lot of consumer undoubtedly believe Blu-ray is a fad like UMD. After all, it's been 6 years and DVD stills own about 2/3 of the OD retail space. Sales wise Blu-ray is still under a quarter of the pie. Not exactly a warm and fuzzy number.
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3D Blu-ray is good format to watch HD movie.
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