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Old 05-10-2012, 03:28 PM   #1
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DVDs and Blu-rays will now carry two unskippable government warnings

Great. Another unskippable 20 seconds before I can finally play my blu-rays.
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DVDs and Blu-rays will now carry two unskippable government warnings

Great. Another unskippable 20 seconds before I can finally play my blu-rays.
I think it's an extra 10 seconds, since the first one is to replace the existing 10 second warning. In any case, it's 20 seconds too long, but at least I'll try to get more use out of AnyDVD HD.
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All the more reason to not buy disc based movies.
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Way to add value to OD purchases....
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Way to add value to OD purchases....
Since when have Federal Mandates equalled value?
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Since when have Federal Mandates equalled value?
They don't.

It makes OD purchases less valuable as each time you want to watch your content you get reminded that those who pirated are already watching the movie instead of watching a warning.
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Way to add value to OD purchases....
Lol, go enjoy your 2 hours of 2nd tier (or maybe 3rd tier, behind DVD) PQ and AQ movies (if they're available on a non-OD platform).

Some of us here actually care deeply about the best available AV experience and it's certainly worth sitting through 20 seconds of warnings, given the non-OD alternatives.
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DVDs and Blu-rays will now carry two unskippable government warnings

Great. Another unskippable 20 seconds before I can finally play my blu-rays.
You cant skip the warnings. But you can fast forward them.
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Lol, go enjoy your 2 hours of 2nd tier (or maybe 3rd tier, behind DVD) PQ and AQ movies (if they're available on a non-OD platform).
You may not with to demonstrate such rank ignorance, even if it is meant to be humorous. There is more HD and HDX available on non-OD platforms than on Blu-ray. And the quality is quite good.


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Some of us here actually care deeply about the best available AV experience and it's certainly worth sitting through 20 seconds of warnings, given the non-OD alternatives.
I respect if you wish the absolute highest quality and are willing to deal with all the negatives. It does not change the simple fact that this move does absolutely nothing positive for the OD viewing experience and indeed lowers the value for purchasers.
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You may not with to demonstrate such rank ignorance, even if it is meant to be humorous. There is more HD and HDX available on non-OD platforms than on Blu-ray. And the quality is quite good.




I respect if you wish the absolute highest quality and are willing to deal with all the negatives. It does not change the simple fact that this move does absolutely nothing positive for the OD viewing experience and indeed lowers the value for purchasers.
It's not meant to be humorous, but I do find it hilarious when some of you guys have a convenience-first quality-second attitude in a high definition forum.

If 20 seconds of negative outweighs watching 2 hours in the best possible PQ/AQ, then I don't know what to say. Like I said, enjoy your low bitrate 720p PQ (if that) sans the warnings. I'll enjoy the definitive version.
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You cant skip the warnings. But you can fast forward them.
Exactly, But people just like to bitch about everything. OH God forbid I have to fast forward through ten or twenty seconds of my life.....You spend more time sitting at red lights but I don't see threads about that...It the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.....Unless your having a heart attack at the time......
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It's not meant to be humorous, but I do find it hilarious when some of you guys have a convenience-first quality-second attitude in a high definition forum.

If 20 seconds of negative outweighs watching 2 hours in the best possible PQ/AQ, then I don't know what to say. Like I said, enjoy your low bitrate 720p PQ (if that) sans the warnings. I'll enjoy the definitive version.
I respect you wanting the highest quality.

But that does not give you (or anyone) carte blanche to misrepresent the truth.


In your last two posts you have falsely stated both the available quality on non-OD platforms and the availability of titles on non-OD platforms.

If your argument is truly compelling, you shouldn't have to post false info to support it.
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I respect you wanting the highest quality.

But that does not give you (or anyone) carte blanche to misrepresent the truth.


In your last two posts you have falsely stated both the available quality on non-OD platforms and the availability of titles on non-OD platforms.

If your argument is truly compelling, you shouldn't have to post false info to support it.
The truth is that BLu-ray has the best available quality. If you think that's misrepresenting the truth, then show me that I'm wrong.

All I see is you making accusations without any proof to counter my claim. That's lame.
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DVDs and Blu-rays will now carry two unskippable government warnings

The old FBI copyright warning gets an upgrade.


by Nate Anderson - May 9 2012, 1:26pm EDT
GOVERNMENT INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY


You know those FBI warning messages that appear at the beginning of DVDs and Blu-ray discs? They're getting an upgrade—and they're multiplying.

The US government yesterday rolled out not one but two copyright notices, one to "warn" and one to "educate." Six major movie studios will begin using the new notices this week.

The main change is that Immigrations & Customs Enforcement (ICE) has, in the last several years, made itself a key player in the copyright wars. The FBI has shown extremely limited interest in going after individual websites, but ICE has done so with gusto; it has so far seized more than 750 domain names after rightsholder complaints. This new prominence is reflected in the broader logos used.

ICE now appears on both notices. The first notice shows the traditional FBI seal and a warning that "the unauthorized reproduction or distribution of this copyrighted work is illegal. Criminal copyright infringement is investigated by federal law enforcement agencies and is punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a fine of $250,000." The logo for ICE's Homeland Security Investigations unit now appears beside the FBI's.




Banner number one. Now with "more logo"

The second notice shows the logo for the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center, which involves 20 different US government agencies. It features one extremely angry eagle who would probably pluck your eyeballs from your sockets if he could get those talons near you. "Piracy is not a victimless crime," says the notice. "For more information on how digital theft harms the economy, please visit www.iprcenter.gov."




The educational message.

Will the two screens be shown back to back? Will each screen last for 10 seconds each? Will each screen be unskippable? Yes, yes, and yes.

An ICE spokesman tells me that the two screens will "come up after the previews, once you hit the main movie/play button on the DVD. At which point the movie rating comes up, followed by the IPR Center screen shot for 10 secs and then the FBI/HSI anti-piracy warning for 10 secs as well. Neither can be skipped/fast forwarded through."

The idea isn't to deter current pirates, apparently (the new scheme requires all legal purchasers to sit through 20 seconds of warnings each time they pop in a film, but will be totally absent from pirated downloads and bootlegs). It's to educate everyone else. As ICE Director John Morton announced in a statement yesterday, "Law enforcement must continue to expand how it combats criminal activity; public awareness and education are a critical part of that effort."
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...ment-warnings/
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The current FBI / Interpol message is supposed to be on 10 seconds now .

The adding of the informational message ads 10 seconds to the warning time.

By having the screen change it will not be as irritating as a single 20 sec warning. Still a PITA.
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