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Old 05-11-2012, 08:39 AM   #46
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I don't consider pointing out the quality difference an attack. Blu-ray does have the highest consistent quality.

I consider posting or insinuating something false as unnecessary. Your posts strongly suggested that you were asserting that there was lack of non-OD breadth of titles and/or that 720p was the norm for HD titles. Both of those ideas are false as there is a wide range of titles available today at quality 1080p.
Nothing false about my statements. 1080p is certainly NOT the norm for digital. And show me that there are more 1080p titles available on digital than on Blu-ray.
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Part of the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center's efforts to stop piracy.
Right. Not Federally mandated, in that movies are not required to carry it.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:10 AM   #48
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Again - YOU percieve it as a negative. That does not make it a fact. Just your opinion.

IMO, it is not a positive, it is not a negative, it just . . . is.
It is my strong opinion that it is a negative.

I don't see how this is anything but being a negative for consumers, and I would wager that near universally, consumers would opt not to have additional unskippable warning material on their OD purchases.
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Nothing false about my statements. 1080p is certainly NOT the norm for digital. And show me that there are more 1080p titles available on digital than on Blu-ray.
You did not state about the "norm". You were making statements about all non-OD in general.

I could certainly state without being false that 1080p is not the norm for OD, but we all know it would be utter BS in the context of what is actually available to consumers.


Go visit Vudu.com. Or better yet, watch a movie from them on an HD device. Again, not as high quality as Blu-ray but certainly great quality with a wide selection (including day/date titles).
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I have always hated warnings and previews that can not be skipped - I accept them on a rental disc but a retail version- although I understand I don't like it. That being said the initial 10 second one has always been there and now there is another 10 seconds - OH MY GOD NO . Not once has it ever kept me from buying a disc or even thinking about it. I usually ff through them making it a 2 sec delay. This is a non-issue
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Right. Not Federally mandated, in that movies are not required to carry it.
AFAIK, the federal warning is mandated. That is why we have seen it on all physical media - VHS, LD, DVD, HD DVD and BD

This just happens to be a revision.
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It is my strong opinion that it is a negative.

I don't see how this is anything but being a negative for consumers, and I would wager that near universally, consumers would opt not to have additional unskippable warning material on their OD purchases.
LOL - they have had to endure unskippable trailers for quite some time. That doesn't seem to have affected OD's sell through has it? If you say it has then please offer evidence/proof, not your opinion please. That will not be enough.

IMO - a tempest in a teacup . . . and nothing more.
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You did not state about the "norm". You were making statements about all non-OD in general.

I could certainly state without being false that 1080p is not the norm for OD, but we all know it would be utter BS in the context of what is actually available to consumers.


Go visit Vudu.com. Or better yet, watch a movie from them on an HD device. Again, not as high quality as Blu-ray but certainly great quality with a wide selection (including day/date titles).

Again, show me what statements were false. All I get from you is your trying to convert what I said into "insinuations".
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Again, show me what statements were false. All I get from you is your trying to convert what I said into "insinuations".
We already covered this. I was responding to your statements because they read like you were asserting that non-OD was limited in breadth and quality.

I clarified that non-OD has a wealth of title availability at high quality.

Likewise you clarified that you were only trying to state that Blu-ray has the highest quality. I won't argue with that assertion.


I would invite you to look at your original comments again and objectively see how they could be interpreted as stating that non-OD options were limited in breadth of titles and in quality (720p). You have clarified your position and I accept your clarification, but it is not hard to see how you original comments could be interpreted that way.
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LOL - they have had to endure unskippable trailers for quite some time. That doesn't seem to have affected OD's sell through has it? If you say it has then please offer evidence/proof, not your opinion please. That will not be enough.

IMO - a tempest in a teacup . . . and nothing more.
Shrug.

Again, I don't see how this is anything but a negative for consumers. Pretty silly (IMO) to try and spin it as anything but.
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But I should not have to do that every time for a movie I paid for. And they wonder why streaming and torrentz are popular

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Fastforward the fbi warnings, skip the movie trailers. Not that big of a deal considering what you have to put up with in everything else. Commercials on television, commercials in youtube/hulu, commercials before the movie in the theater.
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It occurs to me that part of the weird go around in this thread is people not being really clear about what they are asserting.

So here are the 3 things I have asserted in this thread:

1. This change is a negative.

This does nothing to enhance the user experience. Indeed it is an additional annoyance, albeit a minor one.

2. Blu-ray has the highest quality.

I have clearly acknowledged that BD currently has the highest available quality. Moreso, I have stated that I respect anyone's decision to put that quality above any other concerns.

3. Non-OD options are available at high quality and with a wealth of title availability.

This is pretty self explanatory. No one can seriously assert at this time that there are not quality options available outside of OD. They might not match BD quality, but they are there and are very strong options.
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But I should not have to do that every time for a movie I paid for. And they wonder why streaming and torrentz are popular
But don't you have to put up with a streaming buffer, particularly for HD streaming? And doesn't Vudu have commercials?
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Shrug.

Again, I don't see how this is anything but a negative for consumers. Pretty silly (IMO) to try and spin it as anything but.
I agree the change is not a plus and probably not necessary either. 10 seconds is OK but waiting 20 seconds is too long. I don't remember though if you can fast forward through this. For a 10 second warning, it generally isn't long enough for me to lose patience to fast forward, but it would with 20 seconds. I certainly hope that they'll at least enable the fast forward feature if not the skip.
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Shrug.

Again, I don't see how this is anything but a negative for consumers. Pretty silly (IMO) to try and spin it as anything but.
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YOU are spinning it into a negative.

Again - it is nothing more than a tempest in a teacup. A VERY slight inconvinence . . . if that. And IMO will have zero affect on OD sell-through.
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